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Message: [QUOTE="ssbriefcase, post: 5639342, member: 883"] You have to survive the ground cmon. My example above is the most plain way to explain it. You're telling me, that if he was all alone no one around and he seemingly catches it with 2 steps hits his knee and back and the ball pops out that's a completion? It never is. To continue that, the ball also during that sequence never hits the ground and is in the possession of the defender on the conclusion of the play [/QUOTE]