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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 5451498, member: 474"] I am not sure that length of 620 does much to these guys with this equipment. Even back 40 yrs ago we had 575 yd par 5s and I could reach it with driver 5 iron. Cant imagine with the new drivers what these kids can do now. these new drivers easily make the courses 40 yds shorter than the 80s and doing that they can cut corners now they never could have which makes many play even shorter than that, They dont even really need to make the clubs or balls go shorter, just make the sweet spots much smaller. [/QUOTE]