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Message: [QUOTE="Archbold44, post: 5474322, member: 10528"] I get that. But you do not think that there is optimism in Kansas State, TCU, etc.? The voters will usually be heavily swayed by (a) last year; (b) changes to/from rosters/coaches from last year, and (c) schedule. What else can voters go by??? I would not be shocked for any/all of Miami/SMU/Tennessee/ND win less games than last year. Whether that means they drop by one win or a few ... who knows? They could all be 9-3 teams and still beat us. We also do not know if BC/Pitt/UNC/Ga Tech/Duke will be better. I have not seen us play a harder schedule in my several decades. Perhaps at the end of the season, it will not seem to have been as hard because of what transpired. The bell curve to me is flatter than with prior coaches (i.e. we can never rule out a 10-win season with Fran), but the curve still centers on 5.5 wins. [/QUOTE]