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2nd Half adjustments...or lack thereof

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The last 4 games have seen the following trends:
1st Half / 2nd half
  • Pitt: +14 1st half / -17 2nd half
  • Gtown: +13 1st half / -8 2nd half
  • UNC: even 1st half / -6 2nd half
  • Pitt: +5 1st half / -25 2nd half
Is it opponents figure out the zone and we make no adjustments? Is it we don't substitute enough and tire out? Is the halftime routine mundane and puts the team to sleep? Is it we just aren't very good and eventually we return to the mean? Whatever it is, it's not currently working. Hope to see some changes tonight and some proactive adjustments by the Cuse.
 
I think the reason we do so well in the second half is that we allow players to operate a bit more in the first half and then we adjust our D. We can dictate the terms a bit more - fool's gold! It's why the zone gets more effective as the game goes on - our adjustments.

We push the guards out a bit more, contest shots a bit more by the "hot hand," maybe have them taking deeper threes than they want and generally forcing them out of their comfort zone.

So now, that guy that was 4-5 on threes in the first half, is either taking DEEPER or threes, or trying to do things he can't - putting the ball on the floor, whatever - and FAILING. LGO!!!!
 
RF2044 said:
Adjustments? Boeheim just rolls the ball out.
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Wow. We need more big time posters to keep it up.

Sadly I don’t expect any changes.
 
Alsacs said:
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Wow. We need more big time posters to keep it up.

Sadly I don’t expect any changes.
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All kidding aside, I strongly believe that Boeheim is one of the best in-game coaches there is. His intuitive feel for probabilities, etc. is uncanny -- and he's often coached circles around younger, less experienced coaches [even several who are "hot" up-and-comers.

But I also strongly believe that he's mailed in some important aspects -- especially on the recruiting trail. Being a HC is more than just in-game coaching. I'm appreciative of all of his contributions, I think that he's in the top 10 [and probably a lot closer to the top 5] of all time college coaches. He's a legend -- it's been a blessing for our University and program to have him at the helm.

But all good things must pass, and I feel like he's not performing anywhere close to what he was doing earlier in his career, and the results speak for themselves -- and this is the ultimate performance-driven profession.
 
RF2044 said:
All kidding aside, I strongly believe that Boeheim is one of the best in-game coaches there is. His intuitive feel for probabilities, etc. is uncanny -- and he's often coached circles around younger, less experienced coaches [even several who are "hot" up-and-comers.

But I also strongly believe that he's mailed in some important aspects -- especially on the recruiting trail. Being a HC is more than just in-game coaching. I'm appreciative of all of his contributions, I think that he's in the top 10 [and probably a lot closer to the top 5] of all time college coaches. He's a legend -- it's been a blessing for our University and program to have him at the helm.

But all good things must pass, and I feel like he's not performing anywhere close to what he was doing earlier in his career, and the results speak for themselves -- and this is the ultimate performance-driven profession.
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I completely agree.
He is a legend but as I have been asking on the recruiting board.
How the hell do we neglect certain positions recruiting cycle after recruiting cycle.
It’s the HC’s job.

I also don’t see much adjustments in what we do offensively or defensively.
It’s just making shots.
The excuses are excuses.

Hopefully we do see some changes.
I kinda want to be relevant again.
 
RF2044 said:
All kidding aside, I strongly believe that Boeheim is one of the best in-game coaches there is. His intuitive feel for probabilities, etc. is uncanny -- and he's often coached circles around younger, less experienced coaches [even several who are "hot" up-and-comers.

But I also strongly believe that he's mailed in some important aspects -- especially on the recruiting trail. Being a HC is more than just in-game coaching. I'm appreciative of all of his contributions, I think that he's in the top 10 [and probably a lot closer to the top 5] of all time college coaches. He's a legend -- it's been a blessing for our University and program to have him at the helm.

But all good things must pass, and I feel like he's not performing anywhere close to what he was doing earlier in his career, and the results speak for themselves -- and this is the ultimate performance-driven profession.
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Thank you! Perfect post acknowledging it's probably time to move on while not ignoring or downplaying all his accomplishments. Exactly how I feel.
 
Alsacs said:
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Wow. We need more big time posters to keep it up.

Sadly I don’t expect any changes.
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“We need more people to complain about the coach.”

lol
 
Ummm, am I missing something here? I stand to be corrected, but I think the original poster was referring to "our" poor point differential between the two halves, not our opponents.
 
DonLightfoot said:
Ummm, am I missing something here? I stand to be corrected, but I think the original poster was referring to "our" poor point differential between the two halves, not our opponents.
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Ghost wasn’t on the same page, but the rest of the comments picked up what OP was putting down.
 
RF2044 said:
All kidding aside, I strongly believe that Boeheim is one of the best in-game coaches there is. His intuitive feel for probabilities, etc. is uncanny -- and he's often coached circles around younger, less experienced coaches [even several who are "hot" up-and-comers.

But I also strongly believe that he's mailed in some important aspects -- especially on the recruiting trail. Being a HC is more than just in-game coaching. I'm appreciative of all of his contributions, I think that he's in the top 10 [and probably a lot closer to the top 5] of all time college coaches. He's a legend -- it's been a blessing for our University and program to have him at the helm.

But all good things must pass, and I feel like he's not performing anywhere close to what he was doing earlier in his career, and the results speak for themselves -- and this is the ultimate performance-driven profession.
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Capable coaches are hard to come by. Syracuse, NY is not an attractive recruiting destination. We get lots of people to go to games and have money for nice facilities. That is great. But those probably aren’t things that will tip the scales for recruits making a decision. Our ‘location’ pitch took a hit with a move to the ACC, too.

Recruiting has been down. We all know the contributing factors. But it’s important to remember that our far and away #1 recruiting pitch right now is that Jim Boeheim is the head coach. When he leaves, that pitch leaves.

So, just bring in a high profile recruiter, right? Sure. Maybe we can land a guy willing to live in Syracuse, NY and able to convince elite talent that he is the guy to play for. They’re out there and we have cash to burn. Will we find a guy like that who can also coach like JB? That’s the rub. They’re impossibly rare. We might land more 5 stars but we also might continue living on the bubble. We might not get 5 stars and miss the bubble. And of course, we might wrangle a unicorn and be top 10 again.

I’m not confident there is a coach who fixes the program instantly. Absent a coach like that, I’d rather see JB ride this out to the end he chooses.
 
Brooky03 said:
Capable coaches are hard to come by. Syracuse, NY is not an attractive recruiting destination. We get lots of people to go to games and have money for nice facilities. That is great. But those probably aren’t things that will tip the scales for recruits making a decision. Our ‘location’ pitch took a hit with a move to the ACC, too.

Recruiting has been down. We all know the contributing factors. But it’s important to remember that our far and away #1 recruiting pitch right now is that Jim Boeheim is the head coach. When he leaves, that pitch leaves.

So, just bring in a high profile recruiter, right? Sure. Maybe we can land a guy willing to live in Syracuse, NY and able to convince elite talent that he is the guy to play for. They’re out there and we have cash to burn. Will we find a guy like that who can also coach like JB? That’s the rub. They’re impossibly rare. We might land more 5 stars but we also might continue living on the bubble. We might not get 5 stars and miss the bubble. And of course, we might wrangle a unicorn and be top 10 again.

I’m not confident there is a coach who fixes the program instantly. Absent a coach like that, I’d rather see JB ride this out to the end he chooses.
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Wrong -- those are EACTLY the things that will tip the scales in our favor.
 
RF2044 said:
Wrong -- those are EACTLY the things that will tip the scales in our favor.
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Everybody has nice facilities. Everybody we’re recruiting against, at least.

I think we’ve always overestimated the impact of having lots of people attend games. It’s definitely cool. I wouldn’t call it much of a recruiting advantage.
 
Brooky03 said:
Everybody has nice facilities. Everybody we’re recruiting against, at least.

I think we’ve always overestimated the impact of having lots of people attend games. It’s definitely cool. I wouldn’t call it much of a recruiting advantage.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you don't think having the largest on-campus arena in college basketball isn't an advantage / would be attractive to coaching candidates, I'm really not sure what to tell you.
 
RF2044 said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you don't think having the largest on-campus arena in college basketball isn't an advantage / would be attractive to coaching candidates, I'm really not sure what to tell you.
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I was referring to player recruiting. We can recruit coaches just fine.
 
Brooky03 said:
I was referring to player recruiting. We can recruit coaches just fine.
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Again, refer to RF’s post above. Same applies. What player doesn’t want to play in front of huge crowds? Definitely an advantage in player recruiting too.
 
Brooky03 said:
I was referring to player recruiting. We can recruit coaches just fine.
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Luckily for us recruiting them as players precedes recruiting them as coaches. Two for one really when you think about it.
 
Vorony said:
Again, refer to RF’s post above. Same applies. What player doesn’t want to play in front of huge crowds? Definitely an advantage in player recruiting too.
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I’m doubtful it has an appreciable impact.
 
CuseFaninVT said:
Luckily for us recruiting them as players precedes recruiting them as coaches. Two for one really when you think about it.
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I would’ve gone with the laughing reaction but I haven’t figured that out on iPhone. So you get a like.
 
A lot of interesting points here.

It seems that Jim Boeheim has had problems with the broad advent of the "one and done" and "two and through" era.
The Orange just haven't maintained the recruiting excellence and haven't had many 4-year players who blossom into stars (CJ Fair is a good example).
 
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