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Message: [QUOTE="phil77, post: 1535779, member: 1169"] My biggest thing with the pro Shafer crowd is when they list the reason he should stay they never say that is he a good coach. His job is to be a good football coach first and foremost. No one said Shafer is a bad guy. By most accounts everyone loves him and loves the way he interacts with the community. One states are recruiting is on the upswing. Is that because of the IPF and the ACC or is it because Shafer? Probably more of a combo of all that. But while out recruiting is on the upswing we still are at the bottom of the ACC In recruiting. Great guy. Good coordinator. The AD needs to pump blood back into this program get a new coach that put an entertain uptempo high powered offense on the field and let's build this program back to the level we expect. [/QUOTE]