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[QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1536563, member: 2585"]
You keep saying this and I've never argued against it. I thought Marrone worked a miracle in 2009. He won against some good teams when not favored. A sign of a good HC. It's not about who has been better. I've never said that Shafer has been better.

I'm not trying to tear down Marrone. I'm trying to get people to see his time here accurately.

I've said that had Shafer gotten a season where the SOS was in the hundreds, we'd think of him in a much better light.

I've said that in their first 3 years, Marrone has 3 more wins vs winning FBS schools. Given where the started this is NOT a negative statement on Marrone but a way for the majority of the fans to give Shafer credit for 2013.

I could give a rip what the board thought prior to 2013. We were all feeling great after a "we're back 2012"... Vegas and SOS indicate we over performed, gutted out some tough wins first year in a new conference.

I've said that for 3 of the 4 Marrone years, we depended on a defense that was better than the offense. In 2010 we were 112 in total O and 32 in total D.

For me - that all makes it a very tough decision. Coyle could go either way and I wouldn't be surprised.
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