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[QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 56336, member: 966"]
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Well, that depends. "Elite." How many elite teams are there? If you say 20, then yeah, sure. If you say five, then no. Personally, when someone says "elite," No, i don't include Syracuse. Can't.

I did the math last season and found that Syracuse was no better than the 4.-somethingth best team In The Big East.
Considering where we finished over the past 15 seasons, averaged out, we were almost the fifth team. That, no matter the 2003 championship or the 96 accomplishments, doesn't equate to "elite."

As you point out, the CONSISTENCY of relevance is something to be proud of. There have been very few seasons where we're not supposed to be a factor. But, still, "factor" versus "elite"  - they aren't the same thing, and being a 'fan' doesn't mean you have to insist they are.

I'm glad someone had the courage to start this thread. It may not be wholly positive and rah-rah, but it's an objective commentary. Nothing wrong with that. Objectivity is a trait more fans should embrace.
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