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Message: [QUOTE="longtimefan, post: 992798, member: 212"] Well, there were 4 AD's there at the birth--Gavitt (Providence), Rienzo (GT), Kaiser (StJ), and Crouthamel (SU). Rienzo and Kaiser were both in the film. Gavitt is deceased. I would like to have heard "Jake's Take" (although he has written about it in the past). And both Thompson and Carnesseca admitted they didn't like the idea, and had to be dragged along. For some reason, I don't remember where JB stood on joining a conference. But, he was only in his third year when this all came about, so maybe he wasn't comfortable enough to speak out. [/QUOTE]