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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 2863910, member: 405"] Well, shouldn't we be? Sure, we may not have expected to supplant them at the top, but we expected to be no worse than 3rd or 4th in conference when we joined, and we have failed to meet that expectation. Sure Duke and UNC recruit better than we do, but we used to recruit better than we have done (hmmm, who was responsible for that?), and when did we ever lose 10 games in a season for something like 5 years in a row? (Answer, never before.) And don't forget, Boeheim's record against North Carolina and Duke was pretty good before we joined the conference. You can't tell me that top-to-bottom, the ACC is better than the best years of the Big East, before it got watered down at the end. We have slipped from an "A" program to a "B" program. We need to get better. [/QUOTE]