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Message: [QUOTE="shandeezy7, post: 2865155, member: 720"] How can you possibly think that we are in the 4-8 crowd in the ACC based on our results in the league so far? 2017-18: 11th place 2016-17: 9th place 2015-16: 10th place 2014-15: 8th place 2013-14: 2nd place Take out that 2013-14 team that completely fizzled out at the end of the year, and we are solidly in the 8-12 crowd in the ACC, and trending in the wrong direction. Not a lot of reason for optimism. [/QUOTE]