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Message: [QUOTE="Cheriehoop, post: 1734134, member: 127"] I agree I think they wanted both and Thornton is a very good player. They are now in the same situation they were last year - no experienced PG and just SG/SF back ups (they used both Matt Jones and Allen this year). Thornton was ahead of the pack defensively which is unusual for a freshman but needed work on the offensive end - decision making, facilitating, running the offense. His father wasn't happy at all and wasn't shy in showing his displeasure that his son wasn't starting (still played 23-26 minutes a game while learning), was told by coach K not to shoot as much and to learn/run the offensive sets. Dad probably thought his son would have been better off red shirting like he had always wanted. I think Duke's staff liked the son but were frustrated with dad (visa-versa)and both decided to cut their losses over the lack of trust and control issues. [/QUOTE]