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Message: [QUOTE="supp, post: 1522984, member: 702"] I think this is why you need to treat nearly every 3rd and short situation as a two-down situation, why you need to go at least 60-40 passing, and so on. That way, you can better make up for the drop that "cost" the game. We all know by now that it's not going to happen on defense. And if you fail, you fail. You're doing it already. One TD through a 4th and short conversion is still better than two chipshot FGs. And a loss by 3 hurts just as much as a loss by 17. [/QUOTE]