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Message: [QUOTE="Upstate, post: 1493791, member: 48"] Teams receiving votes in the AP Poll that I'm almost certain SU is better than: Tennessee (4), Minnesota (5), Navy (9), NCSU (10!), Temple (17!!!), Toledo (68). How Temple gets 17 votes is beyond me, beating a 2-2 Cincy team and a mediocre at best PSU team. Tennessee shouldn't be near the top 25, their only two wins come from Western Carolina and Bowling Green, though losing close in their other two. Toledo beat two P5 teams, but Arkansas is awful and Iowa State has been a laughing stock for years. Minnesota hasn't scored more than 27 points all year, even against Ohio, Kent State and CSU. Navy has played Colgate, ECU and UConn; at least ECU is a good win. It's a shame that the name of the team you beat means more than the quality of the team you beat -- that's especially true if you're a "smaller" school, because the voters will shower you with votes for beating a very poor big-name school. [/QUOTE]