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Message: [QUOTE="SoBristol, post: 358568, member: 485"] No question that W/L records and on-the-field improvements are the primary way to judge a HC. A tad more difficult is judging whether the program is increasingly building its lifeblood (improved success in the recruiting battles), improving the tone (positive feelings among players & parents), and selling that success to key stakeholders (alums, former players, fans). At the same time that Mac was winning in years 3, 4 and 5 (not leading the pack, but winning more than losing against D-1 teams), he was landing the recruits who led the leap in 1987. That is something the AD ought to be able to assess. Marrone is doing the same. More competitive on the field, and at the same time, we are starting to land a few playmakers. Not there yet, but the direction feels right. [/QUOTE]