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Message: [QUOTE="javadoc, post: 481213, member: 338"] You're right, and Marrone shouldn't have tried to "change the culture" of the program. I mean, he was prescribing his values! He should have paid attention only to the metaphysical aspects of the program and not thought about normatives at all. The values that Go speaks of are proven to provide the foundation for the most successful programs. If SU fans don't share those values, then their minds should be changed. [/QUOTE]