A football super conference?

[SWC75]

The Athletic had articles, in the wake of the European soccer proposal, what a college football and basketball super conference might look like. Here is the football article
Staples: College football Super League? Alabama, Notre Dame, Nebraska and a lot of hurt feelings (Texas A&M, Tennessee)

Not everyone subscribes so these are their picks for a 15 team super-conference of 'brand name' teams:

Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn State, Texas, USC

The idea is that this conference would make more money than the current conference deals plus the college football playoff combined and these schools would get to split it up and leave the rest of us behind. The thing is, these teams are used to winning ten games a year, (at least that's their historical standard). How are their fan bases going to respond to going 4-8, (or worse) in a super-conference?

 

[Scooch]

Something like what is proposed could never, ever happen, because most of the schools listed have in-state peers that a legislature would not allow to be left behind. Clemson can't be included while South Carolina is not, same for Michigan/Michigan State, Oklahoma/OK State, Oregon/Oregon State, Texas/Texas A&M, etc.

 

[rrlbees]

16 x 4

 

[TheCusian]

For the same reason the ESL fell apart, this would too.

It's too narrow at the top = boring. It's boring now because there isn't enough parity to make the playoffs what they should be.

Fans make the sport. It would be extremely short sighted to cut off (and tick off) large swaths of the overall CFB fanbase. I wouldn't watch one second of that super-league.

Lastly, if you close a league to just 15 teams there will losers. Like under .500 teams that are not used to that. Sorry Michigan fans, you finished with 2 wins.

 

[JustPherU]

I don’t how they think they would make more money, you would lose about 60 to 70 percent of your fan base.

 

[orange79]

16 x 4

I've heard this somewhere before.

 

[rrlbees]

I've heard this somewhere before.

for 20 years or more

 

[Scooch]

for 20 years or more

And you're still not right.

But hey, maybe someday.

 

[SWC75]

16 x 4

8 x 8 with an 8 team tournament.

 

[SWC75]

It's not a new idea: FOOTBALL'S JET-AGE SECRET

 

[jgeorge322]

Something like what is proposed could never, ever happen, because most of the schools listed have in-state peers that a legislature would not allow to be left behind. Clemson can't be included while South Carolina is not, same for Michigan/Michigan State, Oklahoma/OK State, Oregon/Oregon State, Texas/Texas A&M, etc.

i think clemson is the exception. you could absolutely include a private school and leave out a public school. where you would run into trouble is the other schools you mentioned.

 

[Hoo's That]

This is only a product of sportswriters' imaginations, not anyone connected with those programs, because of one fatal flaw that is now mandated in college football, in every game someone has to lose. This isn't pro soccer where both teams get a point for a tie and move on to the next game. Someone has to lose and everybody connected to those schools is saying, "Not me! It's bad enough we have to play 2 or 3 games each year that are potential losses. Now you're saying we should play 12 like that? Uh-uh."

There is nothing to stop these teams from playing each other OOC, except that overriding concept, someone has to lose. AMOF, Georgia just finished a series with ND.

The Big XII and ACC schools have all signed a Grant of Rights which gives all their TV money to their conferences to divide up until the leagues disband. That would knock out Clemson, Florida State (if it ever gets back to where it was), Texas, and Oklahoma, before the legislatures get a whack at them, because they're not going to play that tough schedule for "free".

What's the difference between that "Super League" and what goes on in the playoff now? Has there been a dozen different teams in the playoff? And if they did break away, does anyone think any network would shell out big bucks for the playoff of who's left?

 

[SWC75]

This is only a product of sportswriters' imaginations, not anyone connected with those programs, because of one fatal flaw that is now mandated in college football, in every game someone has to lose. This isn't pro soccer where both teams get a point for a tie and move on to the next game. Someone has to lose and everybody connected to those schools is saying, "Not me! It's bad enough we have to play 2 or 3 games each year that are potential losses. Now you're saying we should play 12 like that? Uh-uh."

There is nothing to stop these teams from playing each other OOC, except that overriding concept, someone has to lose. AMOF, Georgia just finished a series with ND.

The Big XII and ACC schools have all signed a Grant of Rights which gives all their TV money to their conferences to divide up until the leagues disband. That would knock out Clemson, Florida State (if it ever gets back to where it was), Texas, and Oklahoma, before the legislatures get a whack at them, because they're not going to play that tough schedule for "free".

What's the difference between that "Super League" and what goes on in the playoff now? Has there been a dozen different teams in the playoff? And if they did break away, does anyone think any network would shell out big bucks for the playoff of who's left?

the "Super League" would be a collegiate NFL. Some schools who have been the New England Patriots in their current conferences would find out that all of a sudden they are the Cincinnati Bengals.

 

[Hoo's That]

the "Super League" would be a collegiate NFL. Some schools who have been the New England Patriots in their current conferences would find out that all of a sudden they are the Cincinnati Bengals.

Yes. Once OT was brought in for the regular season, someone had to lose each game and no one wants to be (or even create the possibility of being) that someone.

 

[Scooch]

i think clemson is the exception. you could absolutely include a private school and leave out a public school. where you would run into trouble is the other schools you mentioned.

Isn’t Clemson a public school?

 

[jgeorge322]

Isn’t Clemson a public school?

i think youre right, so that could come into play, although i thought usc has blocked the sec from adding clemson in the past; maybe this is different

 

[Hoo's That]

Isn’t Clemson a public school?

i think youre right, so that could come into play, although i thought usc has blocked the sec from adding clemson in the past; maybe this is different

Yes, Clemson is a public school. AMOF, it was founded as the Clemson Agricultural College and is the designated Land Grant school of South Carolina. The last thing in the world the USC-e wants is for Clemson to be in the SEC with them.

 

[bnoro]

The Athletic had articles, in the wake of the European soccer proposal, what a college football and basketball super conference might look like. Here is the football article
Staples: College football Super League? Alabama, Notre Dame, Nebraska and a lot of hurt feelings (Texas A&M, Tennessee)

Not everyone subscribes so these are their picks for a 15 team super-conference of 'brand name' teams:

Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn State, Texas, USC

The idea is that this conference would make more money than the current conference deals plus the college football playoff combined and these schools would get to split it up and leave the rest of us behind. The thing is, these teams are used to winning ten games a year, (at least that's their historical standard). How are their fan bases going to respond to going 4-8, (or worse) in a super-conference?

Texas & Nebraska might not win a game