ACC Bowl Revenue: Projects for Each Conference Team to Receive between $2.2-$2.5 Million

[arbitragegls]

Just another reason to be 'Cuse in the ACC. Here are some key financial points for this ACC bowling season:
1. Based on all bowl eligible teams (including 'Cuse) the total $$$ to be earned are: $37,000,000
2. All bowl monies go to the ACC Conference to be distributed
3. Distribution will be among 13 schools plus the ACC Conference
--Notre Dame does not share in revenue this year
--Maryland share will be withheld...what a good feeling.
4. Based on point 3 above, each of the ACC schools will receive between $2,200,000-$2,500,000 in additional dollars
5. ACC does provide a travel stipend to each school going to a bowl...typically comes out of the Conference share of bowl receipts

Now for some comments onprevious input (from the stealth side) that many on the board have helped to bring to light and/or took part in discussions:

1. The Conference since early May has been looking at football division realignment...and the whisper is that it is close to fruition. This will happen in either '14 or '15.
2. The ACC Network continues to move forward...it is looking like '15 or '16 to come to fruition...interestingly it will have a significant digital element that exceeds any other conference if present strategy holds. There is movement with ESPN and buy-backs from others that hold ACC rights...note that Raycom most likely will be a player in this (especially the digital part) as will Notre Dame.
3. Notre Dame, may need to play only four games against ACC in '14...but will make that game up in either '15 or '16--note 'Cuse game is good to go. Note that Notre Dame will compensate ACC if this happens...the ACC Conference is very pleased with the Notre Dame association.

To all of you: Happy and Healthy Season Cheer!

It's Good to be 'Cuse!! The Order of the 'Cuse Orange...

 

[Moontan]

1. The Conference since early May has been looking at football division realignment...and the whisper is that it is close to fruition. This will happen in either '14 or '15.

Assuming there's some agreement, '14 (with the MD ->UL swap) would clearly be more appropriate than '15.

If neither Clemson nor GA Tech are in Syracuse's division then I'll be (selfishly) disappointed. I know that SU (the University, not necessarily the Athletic Department) would love to have more exposure in Atlanta.

 

[jr4750]

Arb does this take into account FSU in NC? I thought the payout for that alone was $40 mil?

Also, for anyone, how does a $2.2 mil payout compare to any given year in the BE? Have we ever shared in revenue this great before? Or is this a rather modest number, for a big 5 team?

 

[DomeStranger]

So, just to clarify, all teams split the money? For some reason I thought only the bowl eligible teams split the bowl monies.

So, besides some travel expenses Virginia will get the same cut as Florida State?

 

[orange79]

So, just to clarify, all teams split the money? For some reason I thought only the bowl eligible teams split the bowl monies.

So, besides some travel expenses Virginia will get the same cut as Florida State?

All teams split the money, with one additional share going to the conference. Equal distribution except for travel stipends going to the bowl schools. So yes, UVa gets the same cut (not including travel stipend) as FSU. Although, from what I hear (Swofford I believe mentioned it publicly), the league is relooking at that, and maybe give BCS (or actually, playoff participants) more than the other schools. I don't know of any other details than that. Maybe arbitragegls has some scoop.

 

[upperdeck]

so if schools avg spending a million or so to get to a bowl game. where does that 11 million come from? or does the stipend only cover some costs so all the money for buying tickets is a school problem

 

[arbitragegls]

All teams split the money, with one additional share going to the conference. Equal distribution except for travel stipends going to the bowl schools. So yes, UVa gets the same cut (not including travel stipend) as FSU. Although, from what I hear (Swofford I believe mentioned it publicly), the league is relooking at that, and maybe give BCS (or actually, playoff participants) more than the other schools. I don't know of any other details than that. Maybe arbitragegls has some scoop.

Orange79...you are correct...the ACC is an equal distribution Conference..in this case only Notre Dame (not until next year and dependent on whether it is in the Championship series) and Maryland (share withheld...such a same) it is equal distribution...However, the Conference has looked at providing a different but not necessarily significant additional distribution to those bowling schools and dependent on which bowl and payout they go to...this would therefore lower slightly the dollars given to say Wake Forest because it did not go to any bowl. Take my $$$ as average and know that Syracuse will receive $$$ mentioned in OP.

 

[OrangePA]

Would like to see Miami, and Va Tech and perhaps Ga Tech every year.

But also like the idea of seeing FSU and Clemson every year.

Like a candy store.

 

[arbitragegls]

Arb does this take into account FSU in NC? I thought the payout for that alone was $40 mil?

Also, for anyone, how does a $2.2 mil payout compare to any given year in the BE? Have we ever shared in revenue this great before? Or is this a rather modest number, for a big 5 team?[/q
Good first question...the $40 million estimate doesn't begin until the new Championship season which starts next year...if the ACC does as well next year (11 of 14 bowling with two in the Championship series), the $$$ mentioned above will be far less than what each team receives next year.

 

[orangepassion]

arbit,

Any idea on who would go where in division realignment?

 

[rrlbees]

All teams split the money, with one additional share going to the conference. Equal distribution except for travel stipends going to the bowl schools. So yes, UVa gets the same cut (not including travel stipend) as FSU. Although, from what I hear (Swofford I believe mentioned it publicly), the league is relooking at that, and maybe give BCS (or actually, playoff participants) more than the other schools. I don't know of any other details than that. Maybe arbitragegls has some scoop.

Yes, It was in an article last week that the ACC is looking at giving the BCS reps more. Not sure if it was the same one that talked about changing the division make up.

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[rrlbees]

so if schools avg spending a million or so to get to a bowl game. where does that 11 million come from? or does the stipend only cover some costs so all the money for buying tickets is a school problem

Don't know what the travel stipend is but it will be subtracted from the total bowl income and then what is left will be divided 15 ways with the ACC I am sure keeping MDs share this year.

Let's assume the stipend is 500k (just a wag). That would leave about $31m to be divided 15 ways. So a shade over $2m is what SU can be expected. Of course that could be a bit low or high based on that travel stipend.

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[arbitragegls]

Well that was off...my projection that is with a few teams changing bowls (including our 'Cuse and a few bowls raising payout this year VS. last year) the PAY-OUT goes way up...so here is the final estimated per team tally (have now checked this twice):
There is $50,000,000 to be shared (ACC sets NCAA record for most teams in bowls):
A) equal distribution to all teams (minus $0 for ND and Maryland) plus Conference share generates $3,600,000 (averagely)
B) equal distribution and Maryland share is held by Conference: $3,360,000 (averagely)

Don't forget the ACC provides equal shares to all teams and then:
A) pays a % of travel and meal and hotel expenses
B) has stated but not yet determined how to payout more bowl revenue to teams going to bowls vs. those not going--incentive for doing well in football (and same scheme will be adapted for Bball also)

So what was a MILLION MISS---yippee!

It's Good to be 'Cuse!! The Order of the 'Cuse Orange...

 

[orange79]

B) has stated but not yet determined how to payout more bowl revenue to teams going to bowls vs. those not going--incentive for doing well in football (and same scheme will be adapted for Bball also)

This is incredibly important to us. I know most will be shared, but it always ground my gears to have some of our NCAA credits going to Rutgers and DePaul, teams that weren't even trying.

 

[SmilinBob]

Arb please if you talk to anybody in the ACC front office to let them know the pod system with one division in football is the way to go and to have the two top teams play for the championship is the way to go if we have to have these foolish conference championship game that have no one show up for.

Get rid of these conference championships and have a true playoff w/conference winners instead.

 

[TexanMark]

All teams split the money, with one additional share going to the conference. Equal distribution except for travel stipends going to the bowl schools. So yes, UVa gets the same cut (not including travel stipend) as FSU. Although, from what I hear (Swofford I believe mentioned it publicly), the league is relooking at that, and maybe give BCS (or actually, playoff participants) more than the other schools. I don't know of any other details than that. Maybe arbitragegls has some scoop.

That seems only fair...but they should give F4 teams in hoops a slightly bigger cut too.

 

[RMH44]

Just another reason to be 'Cuse in the ACC. Here are some key financial points for this ACC bowling season:
1. Based on all bowl eligible teams (including 'Cuse) the total $$$ to be earned are: $37,000,000
2. All bowl monies go to the ACC Conference to be distributed
3. Distribution will be among 13 schools plus the ACC Conference
--Notre Dame does not share in revenue this year
--Maryland share will be withheld...what a good feeling.
4. Based on point 3 above, each of the ACC schools will receive between $2,200,000-$2,500,000 in additional dollars
5. ACC does provide a travel stipend to each school going to a bowl...typically comes out of the Conference share of bowl receipts

That would make a tidy little down payment for the IPF ground breaking.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Would be nice to see this money put to work or towards the football program especially, still need to step it up

 

[SmilinBob]

When is this money paid out?

 

[orange79]

That seems only fair...but they should give F4 teams in hoops a slightly bigger cut too.

And that is exactly what arbitragels said in his second post in this thread. Good news.

 

[cpatrocks]

Also, for anyone, how does a $2.2 mil payout compare to any given year in the BE?

I'd like to know the answer to this too.

 

[GoSU96]

Well that was off...my projection that is with a few teams changing bowls (including our 'Cuse and a few bowls raising payout this year VS. last year) the PAY-OUT goes way up...so here is the final estimated per team tally (have now checked this twice):
There is $50,000,000 to be shared (ACC sets NCAA record for most teams in bowls):
A) equal distribution to all teams (minus $0 for ND and Maryland) plus Conference share generates $3,600,000 (averagely)
B) equal distribution and Maryland share is held by Conference: $3,360,000 (averagely)

Don't forget the ACC provides equal shares to all teams and then:
A) pays a % of travel and meal and hotel expenses
B) has stated but not yet determined how to payout more bowl revenue to teams going to bowls vs. those not going--incentive for doing well in football (and same scheme will be adapted for Bball also)

So what was a MILLION MISS---yippee!

It's Good to be 'Cuse!! The Order of the 'Cuse Orange...

That's as much as the BE TV contract was. That makes the ACC TV contract a dollar for dollar bump in revenue.

 

[dasher]

Well that was off...my projection that is with a few teams changing bowls (including our 'Cuse and a few bowls raising payout this year VS. last year) the PAY-OUT goes way up...so here is the final estimated per team tally (have now checked this twice):
There is $50,000,000 to be shared (ACC sets NCAA record for most teams in bowls):
A) equal distribution to all teams (minus $0 for ND and Maryland) plus Conference share generates $3,600,000 (averagely)
B) equal distribution and Maryland share is held by Conference: $3,360,000 (averagely)

Don't forget the ACC provides equal shares to all teams and then:
A) pays a % of travel and meal and hotel expenses
B) has stated but not yet determined how to payout more bowl revenue to teams going to bowls vs. those not going--incentive for doing well in football (and same scheme will be adapted for Bball also)

So what was a MILLION MISS---yippee!

It's Good to be 'Cuse!! The Order of the 'Cuse Orange...

Thank you for your posts and insight. The board appreaciates it and it is much needed !

 

[phil77]

Would be nice to see this money put to work or towards the football program especially, still need to step it up

Most of it will probably go to buy the rest of the tickets for this bowl game.

 

[cpatrocks]

That's as much as the BE TV contract was. That makes the ACC TV contract a dollar for dollar bump in revenue.

Less the BE Bowl Revenue