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Message: [QUOTE="Chip, post: 403809, member: 19"] Well, Miami very much hasn't been what the ACC expected. Don't think anyone, anywhere, including those at Miami or the ACC office would deny that obvious one. But FSU made the ACC a football conference. Unfortunately the transition from long time coach to new coach wasn't smooth in terms of timing. Brought that program back to earth, because they were playing on another level altogether for so long. Looks like this is the year they make it all the way back. FSU-Florida game will have more meaning than it has in a long time. That NC State loss will haunt them, but a 1 loss BCS team is more what they are used to. Now watch them lose tonight to the aholes. [/QUOTE]