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Message: [QUOTE="KaiserUEO, post: 3933902, member: 272"] my position really isnt that ND loses, its just their hand will be forced and independence will be over. joining the B1G or the ACC is not a loss, not for any other school right now on the outside looking in. you will have that option, no question. and you will likely net more $$ by doing so. nd's independence has always been sustainable because the conferences were sorta set up to allow nd to continue business as usual. conferences are now reaching the saturation point and will be circling the wagons...either by more conf games or an 'alliance'...or both. you are right that nobody will consider nd, hell, nobody has yet. that will not change. except now, schools wont have 4 open spots to schedule nd. [/QUOTE]