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Message: [QUOTE="elimunelson, post: 3934601, member: 615"] Yes, Syracuse was the final punch to the head of the Big East. Miami/Tech weren't true Big East teams. The Big East was a basketball conference. The football conference was convenience, the basketball conference was something real. When Syracuse, which was essentially the only Big East program to succeed in football and basketball at the highest level left, i think it mattered more than the rest. I agree the league wasn't going to last. I am no doubt in your camp on that one and no doubt in your camp that we had no choice but I think in the eyes of the romantics when Syracuse left, it was Ted Danson turning the lights out at Cheers for the final time. My whole point is I get you hate ND. I happen to love the university and am not offended by their positioning. We can agree to disagree how they should operate in a way that will not offend your senses. [/QUOTE]