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Message: [QUOTE="longtimefan, post: 4589529, member: 212"] You may have a point. My negative take on it is that, again, ND would seem to get exactly what they want, finding willing partners who bend over backward (to put it delicately) to accommodate them. I go all the way back to the mid-90's, when they were brought into the Big East to balance the addition of the previously football-only BE's (Rutgers, WVa, etc.). The basketball schools expected ND to support them in hoops-vs-grids disputes. And that's what happened--although ND "abstained" in some cases, that was enough to thwart the football schools. An SU compatriot was so much against that move that he sent a nasty note to Mike Tranghese. To his credit, Tranghese responded. But that response--"Be patient, there are things happening behind the scenes that will work out for the BE"--was either disingenuous or naive. [/QUOTE]