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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 4671153, member: 622"] How soon we forget… SU was on the B1G’s target list and was caught off guard when SU and Pitt jumped to the ACC. That is why they panicked and ended up with Rutgers. AAU is less of a problem than the internet rumor that started 15-20 years ago. As to the SEC as it is, I agree SU is a reach. However, ESPN owns the SECN and the ACCN, both of which run in the black. If super conferences are where things are going, it is easier for ESPN to merge the two properties they presently own than to destroy one property, lose teams to competitors, then back fill with mediocre or less valuable teams. If nothing else, the Big12 Island of Misfit Toys conference will be there for a landing. SU is the sole P5 team in the fourth most populous state, has the facilities, is a national known program in three sports (and improving in more olympic sports), SU has wide support in many matrices are not discussed on the web. Again, if SU does it’s part to improve, SU will be fine. Regardless, SU does not have the resources to break the GOR or buy back its broadcast rights, why waste time pretending the Big12 deal is better? The present ACC deal will pay more than the Big12. Even if it’s close, the ACC exit fee is $120MM plus (3X the payout which is projected at $43MM). How soon will SU recover the alleged bump from the Big12 For the exit fee alone? And how much longer for SU to recover from the broadcast rights buy back? Show me real numbers, if they work out I will concede. To date, all speculators only talk on one point or maybe two. When numbers are calculated, the talkers run and hide or make emotional pleas. These are the same talkers that alleged that the numbers work, are hard and they are being cold and calculating. Yet they refuse to back up claims when faced with all the facts. I am looking for a way out as an alternative but the best way out right now is to be patient. I am for SU, not the ACC. Right now, the two are aligned. [/QUOTE]

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