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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4674245, member: 5685"] . Come on. Bowden was 21-19 in the ACC his last 5 years with a high of 5Ws. The 13 years prior to that he had 8 losses in the ACC combined! Overall he was 38-27 his last 5 seasons. Jimbo's 1st 6 years he was 40-8 in the ACC. He won his title in year 4, past most of Bobby's recruits. Years 3-7 his worst record was 10-3. And only one non 10 W season in his first 7 years. The FSU slide had to do with a poorly run AD and facilities that made ours look nice. [/QUOTE]