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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4703925, member: 5685"] Neither conference is good at football. Since the BCS put #1 vs #2 in 1998: Title games B12 1 (TCU last year) P10 2 (Oregon 2010 and 2014) National Champs since 1938 B12 1 (BYU 1984) P10 1* (Colorado 1990, Washington 1991) * they had 2 split titles SU has as many Titles in that time frame as those entire conferences. For comparison the ACC minus Clemson, FSU, and Miami: NCGs: 1 (VA Tech 1999) Titles: 2.5 (Syracuse 1959, Pitt 1976, GA Tech split 1990) Even without the Top 3 ACC programs the ACC has had more success. Also with Texas and Oklahoma gone it will hurt recruiting as kids will want to play in the SEC vs B12. BBall the B12 is clearly better. Even taking away Kansas, the B12 teams have been to significantly more final fours in the 2000s. But is going to a harder BBall conference going to help or hurt Arizona? [/QUOTE]