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Message: [QUOTE="djorange1989, post: 4716187, member: 3508"] Great point about the Big12, they don’t have a Clemson or FSU who are blatantly part of the haves and will easily get a P2 offer, their teams are all solid yet unspectacular so no one is disgruntled like Oklahoma and Texas were, and how Clemson, FSU, Miami etc are. There is no doubt that the big name ACC teams will all leave when the GOR is expiring and my guess is Clemson, FSU, NC, Miami are all locks to get P2 offers at minimum. Totally agree that an ACC made up of somewhere between 8-10 of the remaining teams plus some adds, or being part of the Big 12 will be our options. I think the Big12 would very much welcome us, but considering it’s 13 years out, who knows what anything looks like [/QUOTE]