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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 4722108, member: 1145"] Right. The ACC is in no shape to offer any charity. That charity could be the final act that kills the ACC. Anything with any Pac teams must include both Oregon and Washington. Only then can anybody else, even ASU and Utah, be of value to help the ACC. But if we can get that 4some, then Cal and Stanford make sense, and we even could manage taking Arizona. Those 7 could be a nice Pacific wing of the ACC. I would even take them and agree to make the name Atlantic & Pacific Coasts Conference. I think that would stabilize the ACC with more money and better TV exposure nationally. [/QUOTE]