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Message: [QUOTE="Cuse181, post: 4732909, member: 8295"] They were 2-10 they year before that. And about .500 for the 5 years before that which was their “upswing.” There really needs to be a distinction between “desperation” and “good” adds. None of the available options are good, they’re all desperation adds. They don’t add any stability outside of additional votes, the conference still loses most of its value if Clemson and FSU leave. The BIG12 is the ACC after clemson and FSU leave, no football powers but someone will come out on top every year because that’s how it works. BIG12 fans and analysts will call it “parity” everyone else will see it for what it is, a lack of top level talent. Once in a blue moon they’ll strike gold and get someone to final four or championship game of CFP but the BIG and SEC will still be in a far better position. [/QUOTE]