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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4733462, member: 5685"] So you are saying there isn’t a strong correlation between attendance and loyal fanbase size? Ok. And sure not all alumni live near the school but don’t a good amount? What city has the most Cougar alumni living in it? If Cougar fans are not engaged enough to show up why would they pay for a sub? Do most Tech alumni live near Lubbock? A lot of what you say applies to OTA and not app subscriptions, which is what we were talking about but you keep trying to change the parameters. Ratings do not matter in this aspect. The fact that you keep mentioning Lubbock shows that you are trying to move the goalposts. City size does not matter for this conversation. If Apple bought the B12 FB Tier 3 rights and had a plug-in for B12 FB, you really think Houston would bring in more subscribers that Tech? Based on? Houston is a big city, but that doesn’t matter for subs. People in Houston with no affiliation to the Cougars aren’t paying extra to watch. Houston is a big school but based on attendance their alumni are not engaged. If the alumni are not willing to show up to games why do you believe that they care enough to pay $5.99 a month to watch? You have made zero counter arguments as to why they would have more paying customers. Where is your data? You keep making the argument that Tech isn’t a good overall fit. That is moving the goalposts. The original point was who adds more subscribers. OTA value has to do with ratings and markets. All of the B12 Texas schools are pretty even as brands. If SMU is already in the ACC, adding TCU isn’t as big. Houston is the only real one adding a new market (as I have said multiple times already). A direct to consumer subscription has to do with hardcore fanbase. Casual fans who aren’t really engaged aren’t going to pay. Locals who have mild interest in the going’s on aren’t going to pay. Alumni who have no interest in Cougar FB or even mild interest are not going to pay. Like I said several times Houston has by far the most potential fan pool. But at some point they need to start capturing those fans. Otherwise they are just another Rutgers in that regard. You keep arguing that Houston is a big city and is a big school and therefore have a large fanbase, have you not? And that fanbase is bigger than Tech’s who has a small city and smaller school, correct? Is that not also correct between UCF and SU? My argument is Tech has more engaged and loyal fans. Is that not also true about SU BBall? You agree that SU BBall fans are larger than UCF’s fans but at the same time chose the opposite with Houston vs Tech. Whether or not Tech is a good addition to the ACC was never the point of the conversation, moving the goalposts. The WHOLE point was who adds more subscribers and saying that is “moving the goalposts” shows you were not interested in that conversation and changed the conversation to fit your narrative. [/QUOTE]

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