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Message: [QUOTE="JimBoston, post: 4737168, member: 1312"] And people didn't see USC/UCLA leaving the Pac 12 and they were the Pac 12. Biggest football brand, biggest basketball brand, and largest media market. The ACC that UNC was part of for years was tobacco road plus Maryland/Virginia/Clemson. UNC could drive to every away game as the longest trip was ~4 hours. They lost South Carolina, then they added Georgia Tech, then FSU, then Miami/VT/BC, then Pitt/Syracuse, and Notre Dame, lost Maryland, then Louisville, and now possibly Stanford/Cal/SMU. The ACC looks nothing like the ACC that UNC was long part of. Finally, if the expansion happens, the old guard's power in the ACC is basically gone as there will be 10 relative newcombers (the former BE schools plus the 3 new ones) to 8 legacy ACC and one of those 8 is FSU which is not really a fan of tobacco road. [/QUOTE]