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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4738738, member: 5685"] And if that is the case then the ACC expanding now has no impact on that, correct? Why would there be urgency to make a move? If the ACC is not gutted, it will be #3 as is. Expanding now will not change that. If the ACC wanted to be a national All academic conference then it would be wise to expand now. In that case the ACC would be able to go to 20 in a few years. Then maybe 24 in time. But back to the point, expanding now isn't going to save the ACC and it isn't going to prevent death. What will prevent death is the B18 and SEC not wanting to grow any further. Which makes any move by the ACC not a driving factor. [/QUOTE]