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Message: [QUOTE="atom58, post: 4761982, member: 5312"] SMU gets full voting rights on July 1, 2024 and Cal-Berkeley (better academic school than UCLA) and Stanford are said to do the same on August 2 (?), 2024 - not sure why they enter a little later, must be a Pac12 thing. So all three of them will get to fully vote. ND also has a full vote though a part time member in FB. I understand their support of Stanford's application was tremendous. Read into that what you will. I really think all 3 of them will automatically be in the middle of the FB pack and therefore help this conference. [/QUOTE]