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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4789025, member: 5685"] Reliable? He throws shite against the wall all the time. Teams aren't leaving anytime soon. ECU and Memphis would never get discussed. Washington State and Oregon State make little sense. They are dead weight and short term thinking. If you must go West take Utah and Arizona State in 5 years. I could see Tulane in 10 years but not now. USF only if FSU leaves but that ain't happening. Why expand now? There are 17 teams you can absorb some losses. Wait out the next B12 contract. [/QUOTE]