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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 5203095, member: 1145"] That is true - and most of the CFB passion in the Midwest is the same. Just as the northeast itself has seen a steady decline in talent production and of passionate CFB fans since at least the mid-1960s, CFB Fns in the treats of country have stopped caring about CFB played in the northeast, save for teams that seem to them like something other than just northeastern. The mist obvious way to achieve that is to be in conference that is not even half northeastern, so that the majority of game are against teams from elsewhere. I think the same thing applies to the West. That decline in interest in CFB began later but it has moved quickly the past 30 years. You can even see it with Cal this year. The Miami game was the first full sellout for Cal since the days of Pete Carroll bringing #1 or 2 SC to Berkeley. The game also had very big TV numbers for any Cal game since Aaron Rogers played and the Bears fans had hopes of a Rose Bowl. CA, of course, turns out more top talent than do PA, NJ, NY, and all New England combined, and AZ, OR, and even NV now turn out more talent than they ever have. So all this means that Cal in the ACC can have a better shot to rebuild towards past glory days than it could if the Pac had survived. And all that is the reason that I am big on the ACC forgiving how to land Utah, Arizona, and AZ St. The only way any of that can happen is if the ACC is backed by some kind of major financing ala The Rudy Project. It seems clear that BT and SEC will refuse anything to do with either The Rudy Project of the College Student Football league. Those 2 intend to drive everyone else out of business as Major conferences able to compete with them at all. They do not care about the game, just all its money and all its glory and titles. What of instead do giving up those people wanting to save the game as being for more than just 2 leagues decide that it is better top make certain there are 3 Major conferences left standing than just 2? The ought to be an easier sell than just them giving up, or than them thinking they can act without the BT and SEC and still save both ACC and Big 12 and perhaps a couple other schools to be able to compete fully with BT and ACC. This form Big 12 is lesser than the ACC in terms of Name Brands for revenue sports, so the obvious pick to save one is the ACC. But making it worthwhile to save will require making it larger, starting with MST schools. It could be done, but it will take very astute leadership and a lot of patience from everyone involved. [/QUOTE]

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