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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 5349683, member: 622"] No, I don't. I also am confident that ESPN realizes this and must either bring the ACC close enough to the SEC and B1G or they break up in 2036, maybe shortly before that. (UCLA, USC, OU, and UT proved that buying out isn't as cheap as advertised.). Once schools can leave without penalty, there is nothing ESPN can do to stop movement unless they can control growth of the conferences (refusing to pay for any additional schools) or entice ACC schools to stay together with enough money. If the ACC falls apart, I think ESPN keeps whatever they can to merge with the SEC and attempts to keep SU, Pitt, BC, and Louisville for the northeast presence. I don't see ESPN pulling any B1G schools for the ACC or the SEC. People have speculated several hypotheses to move certain schools but refuse to put real numbers for review to support their hypotheses so it never really works. Ex. Some claim ESPN can get out of hundreds of $MM in expense to the ACC by moving FSU and Clemson to the SEC and pay the increase to the SEC. However, assuming the numbers are real, that means losing nearly $700MM to make $120MM. Why lose the remaining $580MM? It's still $580MM more in ESPN coffees. No one can explain that to me. Virtually any hypothesis presented can only work under perfect circumstances if they could work at all. Such as: 1) FSU buys their way out for less than $100MM and the ACC takes annual payments out of FSU's increased revenue. FSU's buyout is about $140MM and their rights buy back is nearly $600MM. Why would the losing ACC teams not maximize the money from FSU on the way out the door to benefit FSU? They will never get that money back in any way so take the FSU full buyout and let FSU take decades to earn back their buyout. 2) Clemson and FSU are picked up by the SEC and the ACC moves money to ESPN to pay for the move. What team will take a lesser annual payment so FSU and Clemson can earn more? 3) All of the "premium" schools move and then the ACC raids the Big 12 and ESPN magically pays the same rate as agreed to the ACC. There are more but they have less details than listed above. All require a perfect storm of idiocy by the remaining ACC schools on favor of the "premium" schools. Examples: Markets matter, except for NY, which is nearly twice that or more any market in play. Sports history matters except for VATech and NC State, both paper tigers that fall short when it matters. Football rules except for UNC and UVA, both of which are barely able to make an appearance let alone be significant. Etc. etc , etc. I am willing to listen to anyone who will show the work to prove their points. Once "logic" applied here is disproved by new "logic" applied there, I cease listening because the proponent just defeated themselves. See Woad Blue, Rutgers fans, WVU fans, FSU fans, etc. [/QUOTE]

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