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Message: [QUOTE="HtownOrange, post: 5350430, member: 622"] You've not stated this before. However, again, if the B1G wants markets, they lack the two largest markets on their board, NY and FL. NC and VA roughly equal only one of NY or FL. Please do not pretend that Rutgers and PSU bring NY, they don't. And you have not factored in the fact that NY and NYC favor CBB heavily. If you want ratings, UNC and UVA don't carry their weight in the SEC. Clemson and FSU will not improve ratings significantly in the SEC which already draws excellent ratings and has not yet realized the issue of a zero sum gain in adding UT and OU to a top heavy conference. It must be noted that several in the SEC, including Sankey, have indicated this is an issue, though not directly addressed the matter. Thus, FSU and Clemson will only serve to push other teams down lessening their ratings, assuming they are top tier, or become mediocre or bottom feeders within the SEC, neither of which will drive ratings. Do you honestly believe that bottom feeder games will improve in ratings if FSU and Clemson are added to the SEC? UVA v. USC east, or UNC v. Kentucky? Your example of a one-off Clemson v. one team or another serves to prove my point as much as yours. We both can extrapolate the data, but one point and only one point means little. To move the four said ACC properties to the SEC, ESPN must pay significantly more and lower the value of their other property, the ACC, it is essentially a wash. We can only dive deeper in this matter with inside info pertaining to ratings and revenue generation (which I do not possess), but destroying the ACC to bolster the SEC is not likely a win or enough of a win for ESPN. Further, if you remove FSU, Clemson, UNC, and UVA to block the B1G, you only make SU and Miami that much more attractive to the B1G, and possibly NCState/Duke and VATech. That literally moves triple the markets in (60MM for NY/FL//VA/NC v. 20MM for VA/NC, as the SEC already has FL/SC markets) from the ACC to the B1G. Again, ESPN is not likely to damage their northeast presence: First, ESPN makes money from the NE teams; Second, the NE ACC teams are a thorn in the B1G/Fox sides; Third, if ESPN cedes the NE to the B1G/Fox in college sports, they likely cannot regain a footing for several decades, literally losing the most concentrated population/bang for their buck region. Even a reduced buy in for these teams into the B1G would likely pay more than for the ACC leftovers, as you suggest. Further, these moves are too insignificant to protect a P2 agreement, as you have too many states without representation at the "premium level". You essentially ask Congress to get involved, which no one wants. You also chase away most other CFB fans from watching what becomes NFL Lite, again a big ratings loser. (You did not bring up this point, I add it because it becomes material, if it isn't already, assuming the SEC and B1G expand). [/QUOTE]

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