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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 5358778, member: 1145"] If t is fully over, meaning no program that is not already nationally accepted a BIUG Time can ever reach that then everyone not in the SEC or BT should either get in one of them or else agree to accept a P2 that they can never be part of. I do not think it impossible to see programs rise, perhaps even significantly, as in a program that never has won a football National Championship win one. But it is impossible for all schools that are not situated best for that to be possible. For example, I think AZ ST could rise and achieve that. AZ HS football today is much deeper and producing much talent than it did when the Pac became 10. And Az St has more alums living in CA than Wake has living alums. That plus bordering CA means the right coach at Az ST, in the right conference for AZ St (meaning having at least a couple programs with bigger football names and histories than AZ St) can win that league and win big over several years, perhaps winning a National Championship and perhaps coming to be as big a TV draw across the far southwest of the nation as even SC. And that means that it is also possible for the UofA, though Az ST is more likely for several reasons, including overall football history. Something similar is possible for Utah. Cincy really has never been a member of a truly MAJOR conference in football. By the time it got into the BE, that league was gutted enough that the label Major was largely honorary. I think that Cincy in a full strength ACC would begin taking more and ore of the very solid 3* OH nd other BT states talent that otherwise would go to BT schools, and Cincy then could be right back in the playoffs, with a growing TV base. Obviously it can never equal tOSU, but that is not required to help ACC football. A large state school run a state as large as OH and as filled with football talent as OH is always a potential to crack the Top 10 and start drawing some large TV audiences. [/QUOTE]

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