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Message: [QUOTE="WoadBlue, post: 5358862, member: 1145"] The Big 12 was doomed from the start because Nebraska and Texas were certain to lock horns in a grudge match that would become a death match. They were fighting one another from the very start of the league. In fact, to this day, Nebraska people still all not akcndowlgee that the Big 12 was NOT the Big 8 adding 4 schools from TX, but was a brand new conference with 12 charter members. Both SWC and Big 8 legally dissolved, and then the new Big 12 was chartered. Nebraska always acted as if if the new league were their old league expanded, and thus that Nebraska had the right to acknowledged as league unofficial leader. If the SWC had trimmed itself and added from the Big 8 wisely, then that league could be alive and well today. Especially if it had turned westward to capture the MT zone as well in a Super sized conference. I think you may prefer to miss the part of about dead weight members of a league in terms of drawing TV viewers. The Pac issues had nothing to with Oregon or SC or Washington, etc. but with Wazzou and Oregon ST and even UCLA losing much of its TV drawing power for both revenue sports. The Pac issues also featured being restricted to the two western most time zones. What the old time pac fans call East Coast bias is the simple fact that few people in ET or CT care to watch games matching 2 teams from west of CT. What the Pac should have bent over backwards to do a long time ago was create an extensive OOC scheduling plan with the ACC. Since the 1970s, ACC members (which means we are not talking about Miami), have won more football National Championships than have BT members. Your focus on the SEC must ignore that, because the BT smacks the ACC in total TV viewers. And TV pays for those viewers, not for another National Champ. You have the rise of the SEC backwards. SEC decided to not waste any more money showing BE football and to then sopiend it all on the SEC back in the 1990s because the SEC games had proven passionate fans I. stadiums and watching in TV. The BE lacked both. In a sense, what you stress is old BE football talk: Miami in 2021 won another National Championship, and because doing that makes a league huge with fans, then BE football is set in stone. That was simply not close to being almost true. If 2 leagues have become SUPER rich and powerful, then anybody aspiring to get close to them and is neither crazy nor stupid will attempt to emulate them as much as possible. BT: 17 of 18 members are state Flagship and/or Land Grant. SEC: 15 of 16 are state Flagship and/or Land Grant. But not all Flagships or Land Grants work. UConn, for example, is both for CT. But because CT is nothing in terms of HS football and has no history of its people watching any amount of CFB to halfway matter, having UConn is bad for CFB business. That goes double and then triple because both the Boston and NYC TV markets are per capita very weak for CFB unless it is about ND or PSU or top games between national name brands (such as Ohio St-Michigan or Bama-LSU or Texas-OU or UF-FSU). New Mexico is a flagship and not worth having, because NM is not a good HS football state and has no history of people watching a lot of CFB. [/QUOTE]

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