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Message: [QUOTE="AcAndAc, post: 5368021, member: 10310"] I think we need to recognize that these 4 voting NO would have been the problem that forces FSU/Clemson to be pissed and justify leaving. The measure might have passed anyway. As it stands, these are major commitments by these 4 schools to [I][B]football success [I]in the form of making sure Clemson/FSU can compete against B1G/SEC schools[/I][/B][/I]. The $4M Syracuse gives up is not depriving the ACC of much in the way of major bowls or playoff appearances. Same for BC and Wake Forest. In other words, if you cannot win championships... at least help us (Clemson/FSU) to do so. If there is any way to save the ACC, it is THIS way. Maybe it will fail, but I think these 4 schools need FSU/Clemson in the ACC way more than they need FSU/Clemson to leave. And they just proved it. [/QUOTE]