ACC Power Rankings

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[orangepassion]

I give lots of credit to Mike Elko for a fantastic 1st season at Duke and NC State not following apart when they lost their QB for the year and beating some good teams w/o him. Very interesting quote by Clawson in that article.

 

[dasher]

I give lots of credit to Mike Elko for a fantastic 1st season at Duke and NC State not following apart when they lost their QB for the year and beating some good teams w/o him. Very interesting quote by Clawson in that article.

what did he say?

 

[orangepassion]

what did he say?

“We came into this year with all these expectations, and we had so many guys back. I don’t know, in terms of how I managed this team in spring and fall camp, if that was the best way,” Clawson told reporters.
“When things don’t go well, you can’t just say it’s bad luck. You have to be critical and say, ‘If you had it to do over, what would you do differently?’ There’s some things we would do differently.”
Very impressed w/ his humility and lack of excuses.

ACC Power Rankings: Syracuse is middle of the pack. Did it underachieve or finish where it started?

Nate Mink releases his final ACC Power Rankings of the season.

www.syracuse.com

 

[721Comstock]

LOLz!!!

The team whom everybody picked DFL in the Atlantic, finished 3rd.
O/A for total season wins was like what, 4.5?

Did it underachieve??

 

[rrlbees]

It over achieved dumbass.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

It over achieved dumbass.

Agreed and once again moving the finish line when it's convenient for some haphazard content.

 

[Millhouse]

Agreed and once again moving the finish line when it's convenient for some haphazard content.

Over/Under was 5. They won 7. End of article

 

[qdawgg]

Over/Under was 5. They won 7. End of article

.... 8....

 

[MikeSU02]

Over/Under was 5. They won 7. End of article

It's just that no one likes losing 5 in a row. It stinks. You go 6-0 in a row and you start having dreams.

But 7 regular season wins with losses to FSU, Clemson, ND, Wake on the road and Pitt, that ain't bad. I wish we got the Pitt win.

Win the bowl game, 8 total wins is big time. Let's see who we get to come back and who we get in the portal.

Dino isn't perfect, but we aren't getting rid of him right now. Last off season we did very well. Hoping to replicate that again.

 

[qdawgg]

It's just that no one likes losing 5 in a row. It stinks. You go 6-0 in a row and you start having dreams.

But 7 regular season wins with losses to FSU, Clemson, ND, Wake on the road and Pitt, that ain't bad. I wish we got the Pitt win.

Win the bowl game, 8 total wins is big time. Let's see who we get to come back and who we get in the portal.

Dino isn't perfect, but we aren't getting rid of him right now. Last off season we did very well. Hoping to replicate that again.

Next year we should be able to at least win 7 again and I'm excited about having another winning season (most likely) since even those have been few and far between since the Mcnabb years.

 

[Consigliere]

The 6 straight wins and 5 straight losses were at least partially a product of how the schedule laid out. That five game stretch included the three toughest opponents on the schedule in Clemson, Notre Dame and FSU, a Wake Forest team that rose as high as #10 in the polls during the season and a game in Pittsburgh without our QB1.

Suppose we swap the sequence of the dates of Louisville and Notre Dame and of Virginia and FSU. Now instead of 6W, 5L, 1W it’s much more balanced with no consecutive losses. How different would the perception of a 7-5 season be in that scenario?

 

[721Comstock]

The 6 straight wins and 5 straight losses were at least partially a product of how the schedule laid out. That five game stretch included the three toughest opponents on the schedule in Clemson, Notre Dame and FSU, a Wake Forest team that rose as high as #10 in the polls during the season and a game in Pittsburgh without our QB1.

Suppose we swap the sequence of the dates of Louisville and Notre Dame and of Virginia and FSU. Now instead of 6W, 5L, 1W it’s much more balanced with no consecutive losses. How different would the perception of a 7-5 season be in that scenario?

Exactly.

AND - what people fail to realize
Is - had the schedule been sorted differently, then we’re never 6-0, don’t spend 4 weeks ranked in the Top 25, don’t make the CFP rankings at all, etc.

Plus - getting Llvll first game obviously benefited us, since they didn’t know our new schemes, and we were completely healthy for that game.
If we play them later, that maybe becomes an L.

 

[Millhouse]

The 6 straight wins and 5 straight losses were at least partially a product of how the schedule laid out. That five game stretch included the three toughest opponents on the schedule in Clemson, Notre Dame and FSU, a Wake Forest team that rose as high as #10 in the polls during the season and a game in Pittsburgh without our QB1.

Suppose we swap the sequence of the dates of Louisville and Notre Dame and of Virginia and FSU. Now instead of 6W, 5L, 1W it’s much more balanced with no consecutive losses. How different would the perception of a 7-5 season be in that scenario?

1-4 against top 30 SRS
2-1 vs 31-60
4-0 vs the rest 94-99 and Wagner is ranked a thousandth I think

Roster isn't good enough to do much better than that against top 30. Glad we played Louisville when we did.

Glad they got bowl eligible without needing that Wagner nonsense

 

[Consigliere]

Exactly.

Plus - getting Llvll first game obviously benefited us, since they didn’t know our new schemes, and we were completely healthy for that game.
If we play them later, that maybe becomes an L.

Absolutely true. I suppose I was trying to hypothesize using an all other things being equal assumption. Could counter that if we played Pitt earlier when Shrader was completely healthy maybe that becomes a W.

Guess my real intent is looking at the full body of work excluding sequence of events, it’s hard to see the season as anything but a positive. Now it’s time for the consistently good side of the equation to kick in!

 

[Consigliere]

1-4 against top 30 SRS
2-1 vs 31-60
4-0 vs the rest 94-99 and Wagner is ranked a thousandth I think

Roster isn't good enough to do much better than that against top 30. Glad we played Louisville when we did.

Glad they got bowl eligible without needing that Wagner nonsense

Agree completely. I always thought the FCS game should be like the D2 exhibitions in hoops.
OTOH, how many 6 win bowl teams are only at that level due to an FCS win? And how many others have multiple wins against low level competition. Look at our schedule vis-a-vis Duke and tell me if you are more impressed by our 7-5 or their 8-4 where their only win over a bowl eligible team was the season ending 3 point victory over Wake Forest?

 

[Millhouse]

Agree completely. I always thought the FCS game should be like the D2 exhibitions in hoops.
OTOH, how many 6 win bowl teams are only at that level due to an FCS win? And how many others have multiple wins against low level competition. Look at our schedule vis-a-vis Duke and tell me if you are more impressed by our 7-5 or their 8-4 where their only win over a bowl eligible team was the season ending 3 point victory over Wake Forest?

SRS better than duke and unc

Too many teams to follow to know intuitively which schedules are harder.

 

[Nicknack]

Not a great article, but did agree with...

"Forget a contrived rivalry with Boston College, Pittsburgh is the Northeast target Syracuse should be concerned about catching."

I hate when people talk about BC being a rival of ours.

 

[Consigliere]

SRS better than duke and unc

Too many teams to follow to know intuitively which schedules are harder.

Yes. I was looking at ACC teams and trying to objectively rank the three 7-5 teams to determine which had the most compelling body of work. On a whim looked at Duke’s 8-4 mark and saw how weak it was. UNC isn’t all that impressive either but they did beat 4 bowl teams.

With the proliferation of bowl berths I am still stunned that 7 of 8 of Duke’s wins came against teams that are staying home.

Shows how badly unbalanced the ACC divisions are.