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Message: [QUOTE="adk(roc)CUSE, post: 3287240, member: 902"] ND v Virginia, what say you? I'm going to go ahead and say we win the NC State game for this. Who do we want to win this one. On one hand if Virginia loses we would be alone in fourth place, but with two teams one game behind us as we head into road games at Florida State and Louisville. On the other if Notre Dame loses we are still tied for fourth but we will be two games ahead of the Irish. Someone posted earlier in the week this is a no win/lose game for us, which is probably right. But what does everyone else think? A side note, I can't believe the Irish are 14-8 and hovering around .500 in the conference. Brey is a solid coach. [/QUOTE]