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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 5030637, member: 1969"] OK that makes your question makes more sense! I misread your comment. The 26-8 number was all OOC games. It was calculated sometime in February on the data I accumulated. Its down to 6 losses - but unfortunately that is because 2 of them became Q4 losses. Pitt vs Missouri Florida St vs Georgia Florida St vs Lipscomb ** Georgia Tech vs UMass Lowell Notre Dame vs Western Carolina Notre Dame vs Georgetown ** Louisville vs Arkansas St Louisville vs Chattanooga ** now Q4 losses. Fairly or unfairly, duds also bring down the conference at a total level. When they blow bad games OOC and don't do their part, and then go 10-10 or even 7-13 in conference, it ends up hurting everybody. We need to be better - but there is some names there that have all been good relatively recently that we need to turn around -- unless of course we just the hell to the bubble moving forward which would be nice. [/QUOTE]