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Message: [QUOTE="MadNY3, post: 67474, member: 441"] Think about this. We've seen an unbelievable athlete in Tiger Woods taken down by behind-the-scenes issues that are...ick. Mark McGwire going from real-life hero and Super Dad in breaking home run record to a 'roid user unelectable to the Hall.' Now - and this is by far the WORST thing of these examples - the all-time winningest football coach at a school with a rich football history knew of unspeakable, illegal and dehumanizing things...and made them worse by covering them up. So when Al Golden says it iis heartbreaking, it is. Another hero/successful public figure doing things we are in disbelief about. BUT he is not saying or defensing Joe's (in)actions..and people, as a father of three boys, by no means does that mean I don't think there are a whole bunch of Nittany Lion legends that shouldn't be punished times a billion due to this. [/QUOTE]