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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4598033, member: 5685"] Retiring in 2017 was really the perfect time. Just off a F4. First HC ever to win 1k at one school. In 2015 we likely have a win or two in the ACCT or NIT so he gets that 1k a month earlier. He was 72 years old. He gets to see all of Jimmy's games at Cornell and all of Buddy's games in HS. He can still advise Hop and follow SU. He could have seen both of his sons at SU last year. He could have been a TV analyst during the NCAAT. He would have been plenty busy the last 6 years. Hop would have taken over in 2018. I do think without JB we are worse in 2018 and 2019. So we are looking at 3 straight non NCAAT years and 4 out of 5. I think 2020 and beyond would depend on how Hop was recruiting. If he did well, then we are better off those seasons and he is still HC. If he didn't then this year might have been year 1 of a new HC (I don't see SU firing Hop after the 2 Covid seasons, plus JB's kids were not on the team). [/QUOTE]