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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 1534950, member: 2585"] I'd take a plan, efficiency, low penalties, a snap count, passes down field, organization, etc over McBubbles all day every day. His issues were freezing making calls, management (i.e. Didn't get along with the rest of the staff), and lastly system/production. I think your short changing a lot of things - but Lester's ability to get Dungey ready is way under rated around here. He's getting better at things like reads - so it's not "Dungey is such a talent he's doing well despite Lester" [/QUOTE]