SWC75
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions. This is just one thing to look at. But I think it’s a big thing.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 11
Kansas State beat #4 Oklahoma 87-69 = +40 points
Iowa State beat #8 Texas Tech 70-52 = +36 points
Houston beat #7 Wichita State 73-59 = +33 points
Texas beat #8 Texas Tech 67-58 = +27 points
Kansas beat #6 West Virginia 71-66 = +25 points
Creighton beat #19 Seton Hall 80-63 = +24 points
Southern Methodist beat #7 Wichita State 83-78 = +24 points
Nebraska beat #23 Michigan 72-52 = +25 points
Oklahoma State beat #4 Oklahoma 83-81 = +20 points
Stanford beat #16 Arizona State 86-77 = +19 points
South Carolina beat #18 Kentucky 76-68 = +16 points
St. Mary’s beat #13 Gonzaga 74-71 = +16 points
Xavier beat #19 Seton Hall 73-64 = +16 points
Alabama beat #17 Auburn 76-71 = +14 points
North Carolina beat #20 Clemson 87-79 = +14 points
Wake Forest lost to #2 Virginia 49-59 = +14 points
Baylor lost to #10 Kansas 67-70 = +13 points
U of Miami lost to #5 Duke 75-83 = +13 points
Stanford lost to #14 Arizona 71-73 = +10 points
West Virginia lost to #10 Kansas 66-71 = +10 points
Duke beat #25 U of Miami 83-75 = +9 points
Missouri beat #21 Tennessee 59-55 = +9 points
Georgia Tech lost to #2 Virginia 48-64 = +8 points
St. John’s lost to #11 Xavier 82-88 = +8 points
Kansas State beat #24 Texas Christian 73-68 = +7 points
Florida beat #18 Kentucky 64-66 = +6 points
Seton Hall lost to #11 Xavier 64-73 = +6 points
Connecticut lost to #1 Villanova 61-81 = +5 points
Central Florida lost to #12 Cincinnati 38-49 = +3 points
Clemson lost to #15 North Carolina 79-87 = +3 points
California lost to #16 Arizona State 73-81 = +2 points
Maryland lost to #23 Michigan 67-68 = +2 points
Iowa lost to #3 Purdue 64-87 = 0 points
Indiana lost to #9 Michigan State 57-85 = -1 points
Northwestern lost to #22 Ohio State 65-71 = -2 points
Santa Clara lost to #13 Gonzaga 60-75 = -2 points
South Carolina lost to #21 Tennessee 63-70 = -2 points
Georgia Tech lost to #15 North Carolina 66-80 = -3 points
Notre Dame lost to #20 Clemson 58-67 = -3 points
North Carolina State lost to #25 U of Miami 81-86 = -4 points
Georgia lost to #17 Auburn 65-79 = -5 points
Wisconsin lost to #3 Purdue 50-78 = -5 points
Pittsburgh lost to #5 Duke 54-81 = -6 points
Georgetown lost to #1 Villanova 56-88 = -7 points
East Carolina lost to #12 Cincinnati 60-86 = -10 points
Rutgers lost to #23 Michigan 47-62 = -12 points
Minnesota lost to #22 Ohio State 49-67 = -14 points
Texas lost to #6 West Virginia 51-86 = -15 points
California lost to #24 Arizona 58-79 = -19 points
Iowa State lost to #24 Texas Christian 73-96 = -21 points
Comments: Two very good teams, Texas Tech and Wichita State, had bad weeks. It happens. A third, Oklahoma seems too dependent on one guy. Trae Young is quite a guy but against Oklahoma State he was 14 for 39 from the field. That’s 36%. Of course teammates were 14 for 43, so maybe they are better off with Trae hoisting it. He had 48 points and somehow managed 8 assists to his nearsighted teammates.
Top 25
Texas Tech +142 points
Oklahoma +101 points
Michigan State +92 points
Xavier +91 points
Florida +90 points
North Carolina State +75 points
Florida State +73 points
Duke +71 points
Villanova +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Southern Methodist +65 points
Alabama +64 points
Arizona State +64 points
Texas A&M +63 points
Marquette +62 points
Kansas +58 points
West Virginia +55 points
Nebraska +54 points
Texas +54 points
Tennessee +48 points
Iowa State +45 points
Texas Christian +45 points
Oklahoma State +41 points
Kansas State +40 points
U of Miami +38 points
Syracuse has+16 points from the losses to Kansas, Virginia and Florida State
The worst team so far is Savannah State with -151 points.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 11
Kansas State beat #4 Oklahoma 87-69 = +40 points
Iowa State beat #8 Texas Tech 70-52 = +36 points
Houston beat #7 Wichita State 73-59 = +33 points
Texas beat #8 Texas Tech 67-58 = +27 points
Kansas beat #6 West Virginia 71-66 = +25 points
Creighton beat #19 Seton Hall 80-63 = +24 points
Southern Methodist beat #7 Wichita State 83-78 = +24 points
Nebraska beat #23 Michigan 72-52 = +25 points
Oklahoma State beat #4 Oklahoma 83-81 = +20 points
Stanford beat #16 Arizona State 86-77 = +19 points
South Carolina beat #18 Kentucky 76-68 = +16 points
St. Mary’s beat #13 Gonzaga 74-71 = +16 points
Xavier beat #19 Seton Hall 73-64 = +16 points
Alabama beat #17 Auburn 76-71 = +14 points
North Carolina beat #20 Clemson 87-79 = +14 points
Wake Forest lost to #2 Virginia 49-59 = +14 points
Baylor lost to #10 Kansas 67-70 = +13 points
U of Miami lost to #5 Duke 75-83 = +13 points
Stanford lost to #14 Arizona 71-73 = +10 points
West Virginia lost to #10 Kansas 66-71 = +10 points
Duke beat #25 U of Miami 83-75 = +9 points
Missouri beat #21 Tennessee 59-55 = +9 points
Georgia Tech lost to #2 Virginia 48-64 = +8 points
St. John’s lost to #11 Xavier 82-88 = +8 points
Kansas State beat #24 Texas Christian 73-68 = +7 points
Florida beat #18 Kentucky 64-66 = +6 points
Seton Hall lost to #11 Xavier 64-73 = +6 points
Connecticut lost to #1 Villanova 61-81 = +5 points
Central Florida lost to #12 Cincinnati 38-49 = +3 points
Clemson lost to #15 North Carolina 79-87 = +3 points
California lost to #16 Arizona State 73-81 = +2 points
Maryland lost to #23 Michigan 67-68 = +2 points
Iowa lost to #3 Purdue 64-87 = 0 points
Indiana lost to #9 Michigan State 57-85 = -1 points
Northwestern lost to #22 Ohio State 65-71 = -2 points
Santa Clara lost to #13 Gonzaga 60-75 = -2 points
South Carolina lost to #21 Tennessee 63-70 = -2 points
Georgia Tech lost to #15 North Carolina 66-80 = -3 points
Notre Dame lost to #20 Clemson 58-67 = -3 points
North Carolina State lost to #25 U of Miami 81-86 = -4 points
Georgia lost to #17 Auburn 65-79 = -5 points
Wisconsin lost to #3 Purdue 50-78 = -5 points
Pittsburgh lost to #5 Duke 54-81 = -6 points
Georgetown lost to #1 Villanova 56-88 = -7 points
East Carolina lost to #12 Cincinnati 60-86 = -10 points
Rutgers lost to #23 Michigan 47-62 = -12 points
Minnesota lost to #22 Ohio State 49-67 = -14 points
Texas lost to #6 West Virginia 51-86 = -15 points
California lost to #24 Arizona 58-79 = -19 points
Iowa State lost to #24 Texas Christian 73-96 = -21 points
Comments: Two very good teams, Texas Tech and Wichita State, had bad weeks. It happens. A third, Oklahoma seems too dependent on one guy. Trae Young is quite a guy but against Oklahoma State he was 14 for 39 from the field. That’s 36%. Of course teammates were 14 for 43, so maybe they are better off with Trae hoisting it. He had 48 points and somehow managed 8 assists to his nearsighted teammates.
Top 25
Texas Tech +142 points
Oklahoma +101 points
Michigan State +92 points
Xavier +91 points
Florida +90 points
North Carolina State +75 points
Florida State +73 points
Duke +71 points
Villanova +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Southern Methodist +65 points
Alabama +64 points
Arizona State +64 points
Texas A&M +63 points
Marquette +62 points
Kansas +58 points
West Virginia +55 points
Nebraska +54 points
Texas +54 points
Tennessee +48 points
Iowa State +45 points
Texas Christian +45 points
Oklahoma State +41 points
Kansas State +40 points
U of Miami +38 points
Syracuse has+16 points from the losses to Kansas, Virginia and Florida State
The worst team so far is Savannah State with -151 points.
