SWC75
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 2
Texas Tech beat #20 Northwestern 85-49 = +42 points
Duke beat #2 Michigan State 88-81 = +31 points
Kansas beat #7 Kentucky 65-61 = +23 points
Kentucky lost to #4 Kansas 61-65 = +18 points
Michigan State lost to #1 Duke 81-88 = +18 points
Vanderbilt lost to #10 Southern California 89-93 = +12 points
New Hampshire lost to #8 Florida 63-70 = +11 points
Creighton beat #20 Northwestern 92-88 = +10 points
Southern U. lost to #1 Duke 61-78 = +8 points
North Dakota St. lost to #10 Southern California 65-75= +6 points
Bucknell lost to #9 North Carolina 81-93 = +5 points
Charleston lost to #6 Wichita State 63-81 = +2 points
East Tennessee State lost to #7 Kentucky 61-78 = +2 points
Stony Brook lost to #2 Michigan State 71-93 = +2 points
Cal St. Bakersfield lost to #3 Arizona 59-91 = +1 points
Wisconsin lost to #15 Xavier 70-80 = +1 point
Providence lost to #14 Minnesota 74-86 = 0 points
Omaha lost to #18 Louisville 78-87 = -1 points
Central Arkansas lost to #23 UCLA 101-106 = -2 points
LaSalle lost to #20 Northwestern 74-82 = -2 points
Saint Peters lost to #20 Northwestern 66-75 = -3 points
Utah State lost to #17 Gonzaga 66-79 = -4 points
Marquette lost to #19 Purdue 71-86 = -8 points
UC Santa Barbara lost to #16 Texas A&M 65-84 = -9 points
Indiana lost to #22 Seton Hall 68-84 = -12 points
South Dakota State lost to #4 Kansas 64-98 = -12 points
Mount St. Mary’s lost to #13 Notre Dame 62-88 = -13 points
New Mexico State lost to #21 St. Mary’s 74-92 = -13 points
San Jose State lost to #21 St. Mary’s 61-79 = -13 points
Fullerton State lost to #21 St. Mary’s 57-76 = -14 points
Niagara lost to #14 Minnesota 81-107 = -14 points
Nicholls lost to #5 Villanova 77-113 = -15 points
Rider lost to #15 Xavier 75-101 = -15 points
Alcorn State lost to #25 Baylor 61-78 = -16 points
Florida A&M lost to #11 U of Miami 59-90 = -16 points
Western Carolina lost to #14 Minnesota 64-92 = -16 points
Gardner-Webb lost to #5 Florida 74-116 = -21 points
North Florida lost to #8 Florida 68-108 = -22 points
Texas A&M Corpus Christi lost to #25 Baylor 46-70 = -23 points
New Jersey Tech lost to #22 Seton hall 53-82 = -25 points
South Carolina State lost to #23 UCLA 68-96 = -25 points
Chicago State lost to #13 Notre Dame 66-105 = -26 points
Lafayette lost to #5 Villanova 57-104 = -26 points
Howard lost to #17 Gonzaga 69-106 = -28 points
Coppin State lost to #12 Cincinnati 54-97 = -29 points
American U. lost to #24 West Virginia 64-98 = -32 points
Fairfield lost to #19 Purdue 64-106 = -36 points
Western Carolina lost to #12 Cincinnati 51-102 = -37 points
Morgan State lost to #24 West Virginia 48-111 = -61 points
Comments: It's still very early in the season and most of the teams playing ranked teams are teams brought in for them to beat. But there are some significant results anyway, especially from that double hearder involving 4 of the top 7 teams in the country. And Texas Tech's beat-down of Northwestern has got to be one of the worst losses of a ranked team to an unranked team ever.
Top 25
Texas Tech +42 points
Texas A&M +38 points
Duke +31 points
Kansas +23 points
Kentucky +18 points
Michigan State +18 points
Vermont +17 points
Vanderbilt +12 points
New Hampshire +11 points
Creighton +10 points
North Dakota St. +6 points
Utah Valley +6 points
Bucknell +5 points
Columbia +5 points
Charleston +2 points
East Tennessee State +2 points
Georgia Tech +2 points
Stony Brook +2 points
Cal St. Bakersfield +1 point
Northern Iowa 0 points
Providence 0 points
George Mason -1 point
Omaha -1 points
DePaul -2 points
Elon -2 points
MD-Baltimore County -2 points
Syracuse has yet to play a ranked team.
The worst team so far is by Chicago State, -89 points
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 2
Texas Tech beat #20 Northwestern 85-49 = +42 points
Duke beat #2 Michigan State 88-81 = +31 points
Kansas beat #7 Kentucky 65-61 = +23 points
Kentucky lost to #4 Kansas 61-65 = +18 points
Michigan State lost to #1 Duke 81-88 = +18 points
Vanderbilt lost to #10 Southern California 89-93 = +12 points
New Hampshire lost to #8 Florida 63-70 = +11 points
Creighton beat #20 Northwestern 92-88 = +10 points
Southern U. lost to #1 Duke 61-78 = +8 points
North Dakota St. lost to #10 Southern California 65-75= +6 points
Bucknell lost to #9 North Carolina 81-93 = +5 points
Charleston lost to #6 Wichita State 63-81 = +2 points
East Tennessee State lost to #7 Kentucky 61-78 = +2 points
Stony Brook lost to #2 Michigan State 71-93 = +2 points
Cal St. Bakersfield lost to #3 Arizona 59-91 = +1 points
Wisconsin lost to #15 Xavier 70-80 = +1 point
Providence lost to #14 Minnesota 74-86 = 0 points
Omaha lost to #18 Louisville 78-87 = -1 points
Central Arkansas lost to #23 UCLA 101-106 = -2 points
LaSalle lost to #20 Northwestern 74-82 = -2 points
Saint Peters lost to #20 Northwestern 66-75 = -3 points
Utah State lost to #17 Gonzaga 66-79 = -4 points
Marquette lost to #19 Purdue 71-86 = -8 points
UC Santa Barbara lost to #16 Texas A&M 65-84 = -9 points
Indiana lost to #22 Seton Hall 68-84 = -12 points
South Dakota State lost to #4 Kansas 64-98 = -12 points
Mount St. Mary’s lost to #13 Notre Dame 62-88 = -13 points
New Mexico State lost to #21 St. Mary’s 74-92 = -13 points
San Jose State lost to #21 St. Mary’s 61-79 = -13 points
Fullerton State lost to #21 St. Mary’s 57-76 = -14 points
Niagara lost to #14 Minnesota 81-107 = -14 points
Nicholls lost to #5 Villanova 77-113 = -15 points
Rider lost to #15 Xavier 75-101 = -15 points
Alcorn State lost to #25 Baylor 61-78 = -16 points
Florida A&M lost to #11 U of Miami 59-90 = -16 points
Western Carolina lost to #14 Minnesota 64-92 = -16 points
Gardner-Webb lost to #5 Florida 74-116 = -21 points
North Florida lost to #8 Florida 68-108 = -22 points
Texas A&M Corpus Christi lost to #25 Baylor 46-70 = -23 points
New Jersey Tech lost to #22 Seton hall 53-82 = -25 points
South Carolina State lost to #23 UCLA 68-96 = -25 points
Chicago State lost to #13 Notre Dame 66-105 = -26 points
Lafayette lost to #5 Villanova 57-104 = -26 points
Howard lost to #17 Gonzaga 69-106 = -28 points
Coppin State lost to #12 Cincinnati 54-97 = -29 points
American U. lost to #24 West Virginia 64-98 = -32 points
Fairfield lost to #19 Purdue 64-106 = -36 points
Western Carolina lost to #12 Cincinnati 51-102 = -37 points
Morgan State lost to #24 West Virginia 48-111 = -61 points
Comments: It's still very early in the season and most of the teams playing ranked teams are teams brought in for them to beat. But there are some significant results anyway, especially from that double hearder involving 4 of the top 7 teams in the country. And Texas Tech's beat-down of Northwestern has got to be one of the worst losses of a ranked team to an unranked team ever.
Top 25
Texas Tech +42 points
Texas A&M +38 points
Duke +31 points
Kansas +23 points
Kentucky +18 points
Michigan State +18 points
Vermont +17 points
Vanderbilt +12 points
New Hampshire +11 points
Creighton +10 points
North Dakota St. +6 points
Utah Valley +6 points
Bucknell +5 points
Columbia +5 points
Charleston +2 points
East Tennessee State +2 points
Georgia Tech +2 points
Stony Brook +2 points
Cal St. Bakersfield +1 point
Northern Iowa 0 points
Providence 0 points
George Mason -1 point
Omaha -1 points
DePaul -2 points
Elon -2 points
MD-Baltimore County -2 points
Syracuse has yet to play a ranked team.
The worst team so far is by Chicago State, -89 points