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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 3
Purdue beat #2 Arizona 89-64 = +49 points
Michigan State beat #9 North Carolina 63-45 = +35 points
Texas A&M beat #10 Southern California 75-59 = +32 points
North Carolina State beat #2 Arizona 90-84 +30 points
Southern Methodist beat #2 Arizona 66-60 = +30 points
Arizona State beat #15 Xavier 102-86 = +27 points
Duke beat #7 Florida 87-84 = +22 points
Florida lost to #1 Duke 84-87 = +22 points
Notre Dame beat #6 Wichita State 67-66 = +21 points
Texas lost to #1 Duke 78-85 = +18 points
Florida beat #17 Gonzaga 111-105 = +15 points
Creighton beat #23 UCLA 100-89 = +14 points
Gonzaga lost to #7 Florida 105-111 = +13 points
Western Kentucky lost to #5 Villanova 58-66 = +13 points
Tennessee lost to #5 Villanova 76-85 = +12 points
Western Kentucky beat #18 Purdue 77-73 = +12 points
Wichita State lost to #13 Notre Dame 66-67 = +12 points
Tennessee beat #18 Purdue 78-75 = +11 points
Troy lost to #8 Kentucky 62-70 = +10 points
Washington State beat #21 St. Mary’s 84-79 = +10 points
Buffalo lost to #12 Cincinnati 67-73 = +8 points
Alabama lost to #14 Minnesota 84-89 = +7 points
Georgia beat #21 Saint Mary’s 83-81 = +7 points
Northern Iowa lost to #5 Villanova 50-64 = +7 points
Portland State lost to #1 Duke 81-99 = +7 points
Rhode Island beat #20 Seton Hall 75-74 = +7 points
Marquette lost to #6 Wichita State 66-80 - +6 points
Minnesota beat #25 Alabama 89-84 = +6 points
LaSalle lost to #11 U of Miami 46-57 = +4 points
North Carolina lost to #4 Michigan State 45-63 = +4 points
Texas lost to #17 Gonzaga 71-76 = +4 points
Connecticut lost to #4 Michigan State 57-77 = +2 points
Wisconsin lost to #23 UCLA 70-72 = +1 point
DePaul lost to #4 Michigan State 51-73 = 0 points
Texas-Arlington lost to #25 Alabama 76-77 = 0 points
Fort Wayne lost to #8 Kentucky 67-86 = -1 point
Missouri lost to #23 West Virginia 79-83 = -1 point
Penn State lost to #16 Texas A&M 87-98 = -1 point
Wisconsin lost to #22 Baylor 65-70 = -1 point
Arkansas lost to #9 North Carolina 68-87 = -2 points
Creighton lost to #22 Baylor 59-65 = -2 points
Stanford lost to #7 Florida 87-108 = -2 points
Marist lost to #23 West Virginia 78-84 = -3 points
Furman lost to #1 Duke 63-92 = -4 points
North Florida lost to #11 U of Miami 65-85 = -5 points
St. Francis (Pa) lost to #19 Louisville 72-84 = -5 points
Massachusetts lost to #14 Minnesota 51-69 = -6 points
Pepperdine lost to #16 Texas A&M 65-81 = -6 points
Southern California lost to #16 Texas A&M 59-75 = -6 points
Oklahoma State lost to #16 Texas A&M 55-72 = -7 points
Portland lost to #9 North Carolina 78-102 = -7 points
Stanford lost to #9 North Carolina 72-96 = -7 points
George Washington lost to #15 Xavier 64-83 = -8 points
Lehigh lost to #10 Southern California 63-88 = -9 points
Brigham Young lost to #25 Alabama 59-71 = -11 points
Wyoming lost to #12 Cincinnati 53-78 = -11 points
Harvard lost to #21 St. Mary’s 71-89 = -13 points
Richmond lost to #12 Cincinnati 48-75 = -13 points
Chaminade lost to #13 Notre Dame 56-83 = -14 points
Illinois-Chicago lost to #8 Kentucky 73-107 = -16 points
Arizona lost to #18 Purdue 64-89 = -17 points
Ohio State lost to #17 Gonzaga 59-86 = -18 points
Oakland lost to #3 Kansas 59-102 = -20 points
Texas Southern lost to #3 Kansas 71-114 = -20 points
California-Irvine #23 UCLA 63-87 = -21 points
Hampton lost to #15 Xavier 60-96 = -25 points
Louisiana State lost to #13 Notre Dame 53-92 = -26 points
Long Beach State lost to #23 West Virginia 61-91 = -27 points
Alabama A&M lost to #14 Minnesota 57-100 = -31 points
Central Florida lost to #23 West Virginia 45-83 = -35 points
Southern Illinois lost to #19 Louisville 42-84 = -35 points
Comments: Playing Arizona was a good way to accumulate points. The two scariest scores: Oakland lost to #3 Kansas 59-102 and Texas Southern lost to #3 Kansas 71-114. We beat those teams 74-50 and 80-67. Kansas also just beat Toledo 96-58. We beat the Rockets 72-64. That’s a total margin for us of 45 points and for them of 124 points.
Top 25
Texas A&M +70 points
Duke +53 points
Michigan State +53 points
Purdue +49 points
Texas Tech +42 points
Florida +37 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Southern Methodist +30 points
Arizona State +27 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Kansas +23 points
Tennessee +23 points
Creighton +22 points
Texas +22 points
Notre Dame +21 points
Kentucky +18 points
Vermont +17 points
Gonzaga +13 points
Vanderbilt +12 points
Wichita State +12 points
New Hampshire +11 points
Troy +10 points
Washington State +10 points
Alabama +7 points
Georgia +7 points
Northern Iowa +7 points
Portland State +7 points
Rhode Island +7 points
Syracuse has yet to play a ranked team.
The worst team so far is by Chicago State, -89 points
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 3
Purdue beat #2 Arizona 89-64 = +49 points
Michigan State beat #9 North Carolina 63-45 = +35 points
Texas A&M beat #10 Southern California 75-59 = +32 points
North Carolina State beat #2 Arizona 90-84 +30 points
Southern Methodist beat #2 Arizona 66-60 = +30 points
Arizona State beat #15 Xavier 102-86 = +27 points
Duke beat #7 Florida 87-84 = +22 points
Florida lost to #1 Duke 84-87 = +22 points
Notre Dame beat #6 Wichita State 67-66 = +21 points
Texas lost to #1 Duke 78-85 = +18 points
Florida beat #17 Gonzaga 111-105 = +15 points
Creighton beat #23 UCLA 100-89 = +14 points
Gonzaga lost to #7 Florida 105-111 = +13 points
Western Kentucky lost to #5 Villanova 58-66 = +13 points
Tennessee lost to #5 Villanova 76-85 = +12 points
Western Kentucky beat #18 Purdue 77-73 = +12 points
Wichita State lost to #13 Notre Dame 66-67 = +12 points
Tennessee beat #18 Purdue 78-75 = +11 points
Troy lost to #8 Kentucky 62-70 = +10 points
Washington State beat #21 St. Mary’s 84-79 = +10 points
Buffalo lost to #12 Cincinnati 67-73 = +8 points
Alabama lost to #14 Minnesota 84-89 = +7 points
Georgia beat #21 Saint Mary’s 83-81 = +7 points
Northern Iowa lost to #5 Villanova 50-64 = +7 points
Portland State lost to #1 Duke 81-99 = +7 points
Rhode Island beat #20 Seton Hall 75-74 = +7 points
Marquette lost to #6 Wichita State 66-80 - +6 points
Minnesota beat #25 Alabama 89-84 = +6 points
LaSalle lost to #11 U of Miami 46-57 = +4 points
North Carolina lost to #4 Michigan State 45-63 = +4 points
Texas lost to #17 Gonzaga 71-76 = +4 points
Connecticut lost to #4 Michigan State 57-77 = +2 points
Wisconsin lost to #23 UCLA 70-72 = +1 point
DePaul lost to #4 Michigan State 51-73 = 0 points
Texas-Arlington lost to #25 Alabama 76-77 = 0 points
Fort Wayne lost to #8 Kentucky 67-86 = -1 point
Missouri lost to #23 West Virginia 79-83 = -1 point
Penn State lost to #16 Texas A&M 87-98 = -1 point
Wisconsin lost to #22 Baylor 65-70 = -1 point
Arkansas lost to #9 North Carolina 68-87 = -2 points
Creighton lost to #22 Baylor 59-65 = -2 points
Stanford lost to #7 Florida 87-108 = -2 points
Marist lost to #23 West Virginia 78-84 = -3 points
Furman lost to #1 Duke 63-92 = -4 points
North Florida lost to #11 U of Miami 65-85 = -5 points
St. Francis (Pa) lost to #19 Louisville 72-84 = -5 points
Massachusetts lost to #14 Minnesota 51-69 = -6 points
Pepperdine lost to #16 Texas A&M 65-81 = -6 points
Southern California lost to #16 Texas A&M 59-75 = -6 points
Oklahoma State lost to #16 Texas A&M 55-72 = -7 points
Portland lost to #9 North Carolina 78-102 = -7 points
Stanford lost to #9 North Carolina 72-96 = -7 points
George Washington lost to #15 Xavier 64-83 = -8 points
Lehigh lost to #10 Southern California 63-88 = -9 points
Brigham Young lost to #25 Alabama 59-71 = -11 points
Wyoming lost to #12 Cincinnati 53-78 = -11 points
Harvard lost to #21 St. Mary’s 71-89 = -13 points
Richmond lost to #12 Cincinnati 48-75 = -13 points
Chaminade lost to #13 Notre Dame 56-83 = -14 points
Illinois-Chicago lost to #8 Kentucky 73-107 = -16 points
Arizona lost to #18 Purdue 64-89 = -17 points
Ohio State lost to #17 Gonzaga 59-86 = -18 points
Oakland lost to #3 Kansas 59-102 = -20 points
Texas Southern lost to #3 Kansas 71-114 = -20 points
California-Irvine #23 UCLA 63-87 = -21 points
Hampton lost to #15 Xavier 60-96 = -25 points
Louisiana State lost to #13 Notre Dame 53-92 = -26 points
Long Beach State lost to #23 West Virginia 61-91 = -27 points
Alabama A&M lost to #14 Minnesota 57-100 = -31 points
Central Florida lost to #23 West Virginia 45-83 = -35 points
Southern Illinois lost to #19 Louisville 42-84 = -35 points
Comments: Playing Arizona was a good way to accumulate points. The two scariest scores: Oakland lost to #3 Kansas 59-102 and Texas Southern lost to #3 Kansas 71-114. We beat those teams 74-50 and 80-67. Kansas also just beat Toledo 96-58. We beat the Rockets 72-64. That’s a total margin for us of 45 points and for them of 124 points.
Top 25
Texas A&M +70 points
Duke +53 points
Michigan State +53 points
Purdue +49 points
Texas Tech +42 points
Florida +37 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Southern Methodist +30 points
Arizona State +27 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Kansas +23 points
Tennessee +23 points
Creighton +22 points
Texas +22 points
Notre Dame +21 points
Kentucky +18 points
Vermont +17 points
Gonzaga +13 points
Vanderbilt +12 points
Wichita State +12 points
New Hampshire +11 points
Troy +10 points
Washington State +10 points
Alabama +7 points
Georgia +7 points
Northern Iowa +7 points
Portland State +7 points
Rhode Island +7 points
Syracuse has yet to play a ranked team.
The worst team so far is by Chicago State, -89 points