SWC75
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions.
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 4
Michigan State beat #5 Notre Dame 81-63 = +39 points
So. Methodist beat #14 So. California 72-55 = +29 points
Xavier beat #11 Cincinnati 89-76 = +28 points
Xavier beat #16 Baylor 76-63 = +23 points
U of Miami beat #12 Minnesota 86-81 = +19 points
Gonzaga beat #25 Creighton 91-74 = +18 points
Purdue beat #17 Louisville 66-57 = +18 points
Wichita State beat #16 Baylor 69-62 = +17 points
Indiana lost to #1 Duke 81-91 = +15 points
Seton Hall beat #22 Texas Tech 89-79 = +14 points
Minnesota lost to #10 U of Miami 81-86 = +11 points
Baylor lost to #8 Wichita State 62-69 = +11 points
Harvard lost to #7 Kentucky 70-79 = +10 points
South Dakota lost to #1 Duke 80-96 = +9 points
Syracuse lost to #2 Kansas 60-76 = +8 points
Seton Hall beat #17 Louisville 79-77 = +7 points
Davidson lost to #13 North Carolina 75-85 = +3 points
St. Francis (NY) lost to #5 Notre Dame 53-71 = +3 points
Louisiana Tech lost to #24 Alabama 74-77 = -1 points
Rio Grande Valley lost to #9 Texas A&M 60-78 = -1 points
Michigan lost to #13 North Carolina 71-86 = -2 points
Wisconsin lost to #18 Virginia 37-49 = -4 points
Creighton lost to #15 Gonzaga 74-91 = -6 points
Nebraska lost to #3 Michigan State 57-86 = -6 points
Notre Dame lost to #2 Michigan State 63-81 = -6 points
Pennsylvania lost to #4 Villanova 62-90 = -6 points
Baylor lost to #21 Xavier 63-76 = -8 points
Belmont lost to #23 Texas Christian 76-87 = -8 points
Cincinnati lost to #21 Xavier 76-89 = -8 points
Rutgers lost to #12 Minnesota 67-89 = -8 points
Tulane lost to #13 North Carolina 73-97 = -11 points
Princeton lost to #10 U of Miami 52-80 = -12 points
Lehigh lost to #18 Virginia 54-75 = -13 points
San Francisco lost to #21 Arizona State 57-75 = -13 points
Toledo lost to #2 Kansas 58-96 = -14 points
Alabama State lost to #11 Cincinnati 51-83 = -17 points
St. Joseph’s lost to #4 Villanova 53-94 = -19 points
Yale lost to #23 Texas Christian 66-92 = -23 points
Incarnate Word lost to #15 Gonzaga 68-103 = -24 points
New Jersey Tech lost to #19 West Virginia 69-102 = -26 points
Savannah State lost to #8 Wichita State 66-112 = -28 points
Comments: Xavier had quite a week with two decisive wins against ranked teams. Seton Hall also had a couple of good wins. Non-ranked teams have been getting points form playing Kentucky, who can't seem to pull away from anybody. We finally got some points against Kansas, with more to come once we get into the conference schedule.
Top 25
Michigan State +92 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Southern Methodist +59 points
Duke +53 points
Xavier +51 points
Texas Tech +42 points
Florida +37 points
Gonzaga +31 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Arizona State +27 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Kansas +23 points
Tennessee +23 points
Texas +22 points
Seton Hall +21 points
U of Miami +19 points
Kentucky +18 points
Minnesota +17 points
Vermont +17 points
Creighton +16 points
Notre Dame +15 points
Vanderbilt +12 points
New Hampshire +11 points
Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas
The worst team so far is Chicago State, -89 points
I’m going to do it a bit differently this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference between this year and last year if that I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to try to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 4
Michigan State beat #5 Notre Dame 81-63 = +39 points
So. Methodist beat #14 So. California 72-55 = +29 points
Xavier beat #11 Cincinnati 89-76 = +28 points
Xavier beat #16 Baylor 76-63 = +23 points
U of Miami beat #12 Minnesota 86-81 = +19 points
Gonzaga beat #25 Creighton 91-74 = +18 points
Purdue beat #17 Louisville 66-57 = +18 points
Wichita State beat #16 Baylor 69-62 = +17 points
Indiana lost to #1 Duke 81-91 = +15 points
Seton Hall beat #22 Texas Tech 89-79 = +14 points
Minnesota lost to #10 U of Miami 81-86 = +11 points
Baylor lost to #8 Wichita State 62-69 = +11 points
Harvard lost to #7 Kentucky 70-79 = +10 points
South Dakota lost to #1 Duke 80-96 = +9 points
Syracuse lost to #2 Kansas 60-76 = +8 points
Seton Hall beat #17 Louisville 79-77 = +7 points
Davidson lost to #13 North Carolina 75-85 = +3 points
St. Francis (NY) lost to #5 Notre Dame 53-71 = +3 points
Louisiana Tech lost to #24 Alabama 74-77 = -1 points
Rio Grande Valley lost to #9 Texas A&M 60-78 = -1 points
Michigan lost to #13 North Carolina 71-86 = -2 points
Wisconsin lost to #18 Virginia 37-49 = -4 points
Creighton lost to #15 Gonzaga 74-91 = -6 points
Nebraska lost to #3 Michigan State 57-86 = -6 points
Notre Dame lost to #2 Michigan State 63-81 = -6 points
Pennsylvania lost to #4 Villanova 62-90 = -6 points
Baylor lost to #21 Xavier 63-76 = -8 points
Belmont lost to #23 Texas Christian 76-87 = -8 points
Cincinnati lost to #21 Xavier 76-89 = -8 points
Rutgers lost to #12 Minnesota 67-89 = -8 points
Tulane lost to #13 North Carolina 73-97 = -11 points
Princeton lost to #10 U of Miami 52-80 = -12 points
Lehigh lost to #18 Virginia 54-75 = -13 points
San Francisco lost to #21 Arizona State 57-75 = -13 points
Toledo lost to #2 Kansas 58-96 = -14 points
Alabama State lost to #11 Cincinnati 51-83 = -17 points
St. Joseph’s lost to #4 Villanova 53-94 = -19 points
Yale lost to #23 Texas Christian 66-92 = -23 points
Incarnate Word lost to #15 Gonzaga 68-103 = -24 points
New Jersey Tech lost to #19 West Virginia 69-102 = -26 points
Savannah State lost to #8 Wichita State 66-112 = -28 points
Comments: Xavier had quite a week with two decisive wins against ranked teams. Seton Hall also had a couple of good wins. Non-ranked teams have been getting points form playing Kentucky, who can't seem to pull away from anybody. We finally got some points against Kansas, with more to come once we get into the conference schedule.
Top 25
Michigan State +92 points
Texas A&M +70 points
Purdue +67 points
Southern Methodist +59 points
Duke +53 points
Xavier +51 points
Texas Tech +42 points
Florida +37 points
Gonzaga +31 points
North Carolina State +30 points
Wichita State +29 points
Arizona State +27 points
Western Kentucky +25 points
Kansas +23 points
Tennessee +23 points
Texas +22 points
Seton Hall +21 points
U of Miami +19 points
Kentucky +18 points
Minnesota +17 points
Vermont +17 points
Creighton +16 points
Notre Dame +15 points
Vanderbilt +12 points
New Hampshire +11 points
Syracuse got +8 points from the loss to Kansas
The worst team so far is Chicago State, -89 points