SWC75
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This year I will be again charting how teams have done “against ranked teams”, which is something that always comes up at the end of the year when the arguments over who should be in the NCAA tournament start. As usual, this is not meant to end those arguments, just to give those making them something to look at in forming their opinions. This is just one thing to look at. But I think it’s a big thing.
I will again be using my “new procedure” this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference is that formerly I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 7
South Carolina lost to #9 Virginia 70-59 = +28 points
Ohio State beat #6 Kentucky 71-65 = +26 points
Villanova beat #1 Kansas 56-55 = +26 points
Seton Hall beat #7 Maryland 52-48 = +23 points
Utah beat #6 Kentucky 69-66 = +23 points
Cincinnati beat #21 Tennessee 78-66 = +17 points
Colorado beat #13 Dayton 78-76 = +15 points
Kentucky lost to #5 Ohio State 65-71 = +15 points
St. John’s beat #16 Arizona 70-67 = +13 points
Texas Southern lost to #8 Oregon 78-84 = +12 points
North Carolina lost to #2 Gonzaga 81-94 = +11 points
North Carolina State lost to #12 Auburn 73-79 = +8 points
Kansas lost to #18 Villanova 55-56 = +7 points
Northwestern lost to #15 Michigan State 72-77 = +6 points
Stony Brook lost to #9 Virginia 44-56 = +5 points
South Florida lost to #19 Florida State 66-60 = +1 point
North Texas lost to #13 Dayton 58-71 = 0 points
Purdue lost to #17 Butler 61-70 = 0 points
Miami University lost to #3 Louisville 46-70 = -1 points
Southern Mississippi lost to #24 Texas Tech 65-71 = -4 points
Wofford lost to #4 Duke 57-86 = -7 points
UT Rio Grande Valley lost to #24 Texas Tech 58-68 = -8 points
Lehigh lost to #12 Auburn 51-74 = -9 points
North Florida lost to #19 Florida State 81-98 = -10 points
Youngstown State lost to #25 West Virginia 64-75 = -10 points
Eastern Washington lost to #2 Gonzaga 77-112 = -11 points
SE Missouri lost to #5 Ohio State 48-60 = -11 points
UT Martin lost to #10 Baylor 63-91 = -12 points
Jackson State lost to #11 Memphis 49-77 = -13 points
Montana lost to #8 Oregon 48-81 = -15 points
Ball State lost to #22 Washington 64-85 = -17 points
Jacksonville State lost to #21 Tennessee 53-75 = -17 points
Seattle lost to #22 Washington 59-81 = -18 points
Utah lost to #20 San Diego State 52-80 = -22 points
Central Connecticut lost to #23 Penn State 58-87 = -26 points
Presbyterian lost to #14 Michigan 44-86 = -30 points
San Diego Christian lost to #20 San Diego State 48-92 = -38 points
Eastern Michigan lost to #15 Michigan State 48-101 = -42 points
Comments: Not a lot of big confrontations this week. Most teams were playing North Florida type opponents- including North Florida.
Top 25
Ohio State +111 points
Michigan +79 points
Oregon +75 points
Purdue +59 points
Duke +52 points
Kansas +47 points
Kentucky +47 points
Baylor +46 points
Michigan State +46 points
Florida State +44 points
Gonzaga +42 points
Louisville +38 points
Texas Tech +38 points
Georgetown +37 points
North Carolina +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Illinois +36 points
Minnesota +36 points
Seton Hall +36 points
Iowa +35 points
Virginia Tech +30 points
Evansville +28 points
South Carolina +28 points
Virginia +28 points
Rutgers +27 points
Stephen . Austin +27 points
Syracuse has +1 point
SU’s opponents: Virginia +28, Colgate -22, Seattle -18, Cornell none, Bucknell none, Oklahoma State none, Penn State +17, Iowa +35, Georgia Tech +4, Georgetown +37, Oakland -11, North Florida -5, Niagara 0, Notre Dame +3, Virginia Tech +30, Virginia +28, Boston College none, Virginia Tech +30, Notre Dame +3, Pittsburgh +7, Clemson +1, Duke +52, Wake Forest -5, North Carolina State +13, Florida State +44, Louisville +38, Georgia Tech none, Pittsburgh +7, North Carolina +37, Boston College none, U of Miami +7
The worst team so far is Central Arkansas with -61 points. Don’t spend it all in one place…
I will again be using my “new procedure” this year. The old procedure was that I would first grant teams playing ranked teams a certain number of points based on who they are playing. If you played the #1 team, (I use the AP- writer’s poll for continuity), you get 25 points. If you are playing the #2 team, you get 24 points, etc. down to getting 1 point for playing the #25 team. I call these “schedule points”. Here’s a chart to make it simple:
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1.
(Of course you can always just subtract the ranking from 26. That will work every time.)
Then I look at the point differential in the actual game. If you defeated the ranked team, you add the number of points you won by to the schedule points. If you lost to that team, you subtract the margin you lost by from the schedule points. (I call these ‘game’ points.) The difference is that formerly I didn’t count any deficit: if you got to zero, you got zero. This year I’m going to record negative points, too, so a team can get full ‘credit’ for a really bad performance.
WEEK 7
South Carolina lost to #9 Virginia 70-59 = +28 points
Ohio State beat #6 Kentucky 71-65 = +26 points
Villanova beat #1 Kansas 56-55 = +26 points
Seton Hall beat #7 Maryland 52-48 = +23 points
Utah beat #6 Kentucky 69-66 = +23 points
Cincinnati beat #21 Tennessee 78-66 = +17 points
Colorado beat #13 Dayton 78-76 = +15 points
Kentucky lost to #5 Ohio State 65-71 = +15 points
St. John’s beat #16 Arizona 70-67 = +13 points
Texas Southern lost to #8 Oregon 78-84 = +12 points
North Carolina lost to #2 Gonzaga 81-94 = +11 points
North Carolina State lost to #12 Auburn 73-79 = +8 points
Kansas lost to #18 Villanova 55-56 = +7 points
Northwestern lost to #15 Michigan State 72-77 = +6 points
Stony Brook lost to #9 Virginia 44-56 = +5 points
South Florida lost to #19 Florida State 66-60 = +1 point
North Texas lost to #13 Dayton 58-71 = 0 points
Purdue lost to #17 Butler 61-70 = 0 points
Miami University lost to #3 Louisville 46-70 = -1 points
Southern Mississippi lost to #24 Texas Tech 65-71 = -4 points
Wofford lost to #4 Duke 57-86 = -7 points
UT Rio Grande Valley lost to #24 Texas Tech 58-68 = -8 points
Lehigh lost to #12 Auburn 51-74 = -9 points
North Florida lost to #19 Florida State 81-98 = -10 points
Youngstown State lost to #25 West Virginia 64-75 = -10 points
Eastern Washington lost to #2 Gonzaga 77-112 = -11 points
SE Missouri lost to #5 Ohio State 48-60 = -11 points
UT Martin lost to #10 Baylor 63-91 = -12 points
Jackson State lost to #11 Memphis 49-77 = -13 points
Montana lost to #8 Oregon 48-81 = -15 points
Ball State lost to #22 Washington 64-85 = -17 points
Jacksonville State lost to #21 Tennessee 53-75 = -17 points
Seattle lost to #22 Washington 59-81 = -18 points
Utah lost to #20 San Diego State 52-80 = -22 points
Central Connecticut lost to #23 Penn State 58-87 = -26 points
Presbyterian lost to #14 Michigan 44-86 = -30 points
San Diego Christian lost to #20 San Diego State 48-92 = -38 points
Eastern Michigan lost to #15 Michigan State 48-101 = -42 points
Comments: Not a lot of big confrontations this week. Most teams were playing North Florida type opponents- including North Florida.
Top 25
Ohio State +111 points
Michigan +79 points
Oregon +75 points
Purdue +59 points
Duke +52 points
Kansas +47 points
Kentucky +47 points
Baylor +46 points
Michigan State +46 points
Florida State +44 points
Gonzaga +42 points
Louisville +38 points
Texas Tech +38 points
Georgetown +37 points
North Carolina +37 points
Tennessee +37 points
Illinois +36 points
Minnesota +36 points
Seton Hall +36 points
Iowa +35 points
Virginia Tech +30 points
Evansville +28 points
South Carolina +28 points
Virginia +28 points
Rutgers +27 points
Stephen . Austin +27 points
Syracuse has +1 point
SU’s opponents: Virginia +28, Colgate -22, Seattle -18, Cornell none, Bucknell none, Oklahoma State none, Penn State +17, Iowa +35, Georgia Tech +4, Georgetown +37, Oakland -11, North Florida -5, Niagara 0, Notre Dame +3, Virginia Tech +30, Virginia +28, Boston College none, Virginia Tech +30, Notre Dame +3, Pittsburgh +7, Clemson +1, Duke +52, Wake Forest -5, North Carolina State +13, Florida State +44, Louisville +38, Georgia Tech none, Pittsburgh +7, North Carolina +37, Boston College none, U of Miami +7
The worst team so far is Central Arkansas with -61 points. Don’t spend it all in one place…
