SWC75
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It occurred to me that with a new basketball season beginning I could do an “Against Ranked Teams” post for this sport, too. The margins of victory are similar to football. The formula is to first give each team that plays a ranked team from 1-25 points based on the ranking (I’ll use the writer’s poll) of their opponent. This chart shows you how many points they’d get for playing each team ranked at a certain level , (the ranking is first, the points, second):
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1
I’ll call those “schedule points”. Then you look at the point differential in the game and apply it to the schedule points. If a team loses to the #1 ranked team by 10 points. They’d wind up with 15 points: 25 schedule points minus the ten points they lost by. If a team beats the #10 team by 5 points, they’d get 21 points: 16 schedule points plus the 5 points they won by. If a team lost to the #20 team by 6 points, they’d get nothing. The margin of defeat would cancel out their schedule points. If a team lost to the #25 team by 3 points, they get a zero. You can’t have negative points. You just failed in an attempt to get positive points.
I’ll figure the points based on games over the past week every Sunday and post them, along with cumulative season standings, just as I have done for football. As I said on that post, this is less a way of ranking than it is simply something you might want to look at in ranking them – or selecting them for a tournament. I recognize that rankings will change over the course of the season. I’m making the assumption that teams are worthy of the ranking they have at the time another team plays them. That may not always be true but a subsequent ranking may just reflect how good or bad a team has become since the game in question: they may have been as good as their ranking at the time.
WEEK EIGHT
Virginia Tech beat #5 Duke = 35 points
Georgia Tech beat #9 North Carolina 75-63 = 29 points
Virginia beat #6 Louisville 61-53 = 28 points
Oregon beat #22 Southern California 84-61 = 27 points
Oregon beat #2 UCLA 89-87 = 26 points
Villanova beat #10 Creighton 80-70 = 26 points
Louisville beat #16 Indiana 77-62 = 25 points
DePaul lost to #1 Villanova 65-68 = 22 points
Texas Christian lost to #3 Kansas 80-86 = 17 points
Florida State beat #12 Virginia 60-58 = 16 points
St. John’s beat #13 Butler 76-73 = 16 points
Creighton lost to #1 Villanova 70-80 = 15 points
Nebraska beat #16 Indiana 87-83 = 14 points
Oregon State lost to #2 UCLA 63-76 = 11 points
Louisville lost to #12 Virginia 53-61 = 8 points
Georgetown lost to #17 Xavier 76-81 = 4 points
Virginia lost to #20 Florida State 58-60 = 4 points
California lost to #18 Arizona 62-67 = 3 points
UCLA lost to #21 Oregon 87-89 = 3 points
Seton Hall lost to #10 Creighton 75-89 = 2 points
Pittsburgh lost to #24 Notre Dame 77-78 = 1 point
Comments: The top four teams all got their first points of the season. Louisville jumped from nowhere to #6 in the standings. Notice that all the teams listed are from the top conferences. The Fort Waynes Elons and Stephen F. Austins are back in their own conferences and will re-emerge in March.
Cumulative Totals
Top 25
Baylor 109 points
Louisville 80 points
Kentucky 79 points
Indiana 62 points
Butler 58 points
Oregon 53 points
Duke 47 points
North Carolina 46 points
Creighton 44 points
Kansas 38 points
South Carolina 38 points
Villanova 37 points
Purdue 35 points
Virginia Tech 35 points
Arizona 33 points
UCLA 33 points
Virginia 32 points
Georgia Tech 29 points
Michigan State 29 points
Ohio State 29 points
West Virginia 29 points
Wisconsin 28 points
Texas-Arlington 28 points
Colorado 27 points
Fort Wayne 26 points
Florida State 26 points
Tennessee 26 points
Syracuse 0 points
1-25, 2-24, 3-23, 4-22, 5-21, 6-20, 7-19, 8-18, 9-17, 10-16, 11-15, 12-14, 13-13, 14-12, 15-11, 16-10, 17-9, 18-8, 19-7, 20-6, 21-5, 22-4, 23-3, 24-2, 25-1
I’ll call those “schedule points”. Then you look at the point differential in the game and apply it to the schedule points. If a team loses to the #1 ranked team by 10 points. They’d wind up with 15 points: 25 schedule points minus the ten points they lost by. If a team beats the #10 team by 5 points, they’d get 21 points: 16 schedule points plus the 5 points they won by. If a team lost to the #20 team by 6 points, they’d get nothing. The margin of defeat would cancel out their schedule points. If a team lost to the #25 team by 3 points, they get a zero. You can’t have negative points. You just failed in an attempt to get positive points.
I’ll figure the points based on games over the past week every Sunday and post them, along with cumulative season standings, just as I have done for football. As I said on that post, this is less a way of ranking than it is simply something you might want to look at in ranking them – or selecting them for a tournament. I recognize that rankings will change over the course of the season. I’m making the assumption that teams are worthy of the ranking they have at the time another team plays them. That may not always be true but a subsequent ranking may just reflect how good or bad a team has become since the game in question: they may have been as good as their ranking at the time.
WEEK EIGHT
Virginia Tech beat #5 Duke = 35 points
Georgia Tech beat #9 North Carolina 75-63 = 29 points
Virginia beat #6 Louisville 61-53 = 28 points
Oregon beat #22 Southern California 84-61 = 27 points
Oregon beat #2 UCLA 89-87 = 26 points
Villanova beat #10 Creighton 80-70 = 26 points
Louisville beat #16 Indiana 77-62 = 25 points
DePaul lost to #1 Villanova 65-68 = 22 points
Texas Christian lost to #3 Kansas 80-86 = 17 points
Florida State beat #12 Virginia 60-58 = 16 points
St. John’s beat #13 Butler 76-73 = 16 points
Creighton lost to #1 Villanova 70-80 = 15 points
Nebraska beat #16 Indiana 87-83 = 14 points
Oregon State lost to #2 UCLA 63-76 = 11 points
Louisville lost to #12 Virginia 53-61 = 8 points
Georgetown lost to #17 Xavier 76-81 = 4 points
Virginia lost to #20 Florida State 58-60 = 4 points
California lost to #18 Arizona 62-67 = 3 points
UCLA lost to #21 Oregon 87-89 = 3 points
Seton Hall lost to #10 Creighton 75-89 = 2 points
Pittsburgh lost to #24 Notre Dame 77-78 = 1 point
Comments: The top four teams all got their first points of the season. Louisville jumped from nowhere to #6 in the standings. Notice that all the teams listed are from the top conferences. The Fort Waynes Elons and Stephen F. Austins are back in their own conferences and will re-emerge in March.
Cumulative Totals
Top 25
Baylor 109 points
Louisville 80 points
Kentucky 79 points
Indiana 62 points
Butler 58 points
Oregon 53 points
Duke 47 points
North Carolina 46 points
Creighton 44 points
Kansas 38 points
South Carolina 38 points
Villanova 37 points
Purdue 35 points
Virginia Tech 35 points
Arizona 33 points
UCLA 33 points
Virginia 32 points
Georgia Tech 29 points
Michigan State 29 points
Ohio State 29 points
West Virginia 29 points
Wisconsin 28 points
Texas-Arlington 28 points
Colorado 27 points
Fort Wayne 26 points
Florida State 26 points
Tennessee 26 points
Syracuse 0 points